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thank you

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I often wonder about the nature of

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reality about our relationship to the

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creative force that forged the particles

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of our stars and intertwined them with

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the molecules of our bodies

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who are we

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and where are we actually sitting within

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the architecture of our universe are we

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alone

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or is the answer simply Stranger than we

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can think

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my name is Jeremy Corbell I seek to

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weaponize your curiosity and if you're

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ready to suspend your own prejudice

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welcome to the world of extraordinary

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beliefs

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foreign

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stuff is coming out I mean something's

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going on right now can you talk about

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that

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if everything goes as planned I think we

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are on the eve of something momentous

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changed the on a tectonic level the UFO

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subject it's going to be really big I

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think it changes the tone of how other

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media would treat the UFO topic from

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here on out I hope so anyway and it's

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going to reveal some things that have

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been going on for a long time government

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involvement in studying the phenomenon

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itself yeah it's beyond just lights in

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the sky or radar returns they've been

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investigating and looking into

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Associated phenomena things that occur

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in proximity with what we call UFOs

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things that you would think the

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government would find too far out well

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any of the fingers be pointing toward

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Skinwalker Ranch

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hopefully this opens it up

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and changes everything

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Declassified videos the authentic

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Department of Defense footage published

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by the New York Times in December the

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program received more than 20 million

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dollars for its work

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for nearly the last decade I ran a

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sensitive Aerospace threat

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identification program

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who I think have conflated the concept

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of a UFO with whether we're visited by

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aliens

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program produced documents that describe

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sightings of aircraft with no visible

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signs of propulsion we're talking about

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unidentified flying objects UFOs

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we have something here we don't know

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what it is we sure don't know how it

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works and by the way there's nothing we

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can do about it

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nobody gives about aliens there yeah

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it's it's they're looking for things

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that might possibly be

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this is a Potential Threat a grave one

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to our country what is DoD doing about

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it

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the so-called Tic-Tac UFO was detected

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over several days in 2004 by personnel

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with the USS Nimitz battle group off the

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coast of San Diego it didn't attack but

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it demonstrated vast superiority over

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America's most advanced defense systems

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these observations match with previous

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observations going well before that you

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when it continues to happen there's a

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pattern we now become increasingly

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concerned because it's not an anomaly

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now it's a trend

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this video was recorded off the coast of

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Florida in 2015. that is in our airspace

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and shouldn't be here you DOD

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of protecting us how did this happen and

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yet it's crickets nobody wants to have

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the conversation my job in the

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government at the time and it was

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twofold to determine what it was and how

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it worked I figured if we can answer at

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least those two first things everything

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else we'll be able to explain later

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the technology of these crap is beyond

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anything known on Earth

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this is the story of a place

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it's been shrouded in secrecy for more

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than 20 years there have been Whispers

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but most likely you've never seen or

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I guarantee you that was the plan all

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that's exactly what they wanted

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imagine a place between Shadow and

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substance

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a place where the world is thin

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to most a location that invokes the

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darkest and most hidden corners of

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something prowls here something lurks

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and if you hunt it it's going to hunt

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you back

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it's elusive

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It's haunting more than haunted we don't

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really understand it

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even after the largest scale scientific

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study and history of a paranormal hot

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there are more questions than answers

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however we do have some answers

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and that's what this story is about

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this is a hunt

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a hunt for answers to unformed questions

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a hunt for the unknown

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and the answers have been hiding at a

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Ranch at the center of it all

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I was like you

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you've got to cast a really wide net

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because ultimately this mystery we don't

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know what the hell it is

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you know there's more to a story and

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you're not allowed to talk about it

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that's a human burden yeah I mean it was

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it was frustrating in the beginning

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because column and Bob Bigelow would

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tell me these stories about what was

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going on the property and I couldn't

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tell anyone I couldn't write about it

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and it drove me crazy and I kept

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pestering them and eventually they

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thought what the heck we'll give it a

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try maybe we'll find out if there are

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other places like it the publicity will

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do us some good maybe some other

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witnesses that come forward so they

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allowed me to write those newspaper

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articles and we got a heck of a lot of

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oh my God

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after some of this stuff I haven't seen

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in a long time

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it's overwhelming

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this is stuff a material that's specific

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to the ranch I saved every scrap of

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paper ever since uh Dr Colin Kelleher

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the loop about what was going on there

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of years but wasn't allowed to say

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anything and then eventually I talked

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Bob and Bigelow to give me the

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permission to go to the ranch and call

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them Kelleher gave me a a tour a couple

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of times and people forget you know

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they're familiar with the book but they

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forget that my interest in it started as

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a documentary

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one of your first book reviews yeah

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like a mustachioed and debonair Fox

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Mulder George Knapp wants to believe so

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your what we weren't trying to convince

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anyone we're trying to tell the story

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and asking people hey help us figure

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this out because we don't know what the

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explanation is is there more to tell now

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there's a lot more to tell

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there's so many things that have

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happened on the property since the book

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came out that have not been made public

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there's all kinds of people hundreds of

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people have visited the property and

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it's like a Rorschach test they go there

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thinking they're going to see Skin

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grain of salt other times people have

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that they keep to themselves and some

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who had very dramatic encounters and

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their stories have not been told for

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reasons that I cannot explain right now

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it leads to a much bigger place and a

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much bigger understanding of what we're

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haunted Ranch it's not activity that

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of property it moves it travels and

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Gorman family had experiences that

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went to Basin who doesn't have some kind

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somebody in their family so we recorded

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a lot of that stuff on multiple trips

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witnesses who had made their own

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recordings and all of that material was

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documentary or a series of documentaries

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and then we were asked to not proceed so

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I basically canned it put it all in a

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box and that most of the footage is

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never seen light of day it's a mountain

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it takes what's on these tapes these are

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property several times Robert Bigelow

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mutilations interviews with neighbors

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who had lost cattle

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trying to get Mr Bigelow to go on camera

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time I finally got him to sit down and

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open up about it it was the first

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interview he'd ever done on the subject

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even though I had known him for 20 years

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it was really tough to get him to sit

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down and talk about it

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so most of this video footage in this

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box the world has never seen yeah this

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is 30 or 40 hours of material that the

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public has never seen before

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this topic is deep it requires serious

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investigation it requires people to look

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at the evidence

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my curiosity became so overwhelming that

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participant the original story never

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seen by the public can now be told and

284
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it's weaved into a tapestry of new

285
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ongoing phenomena and events this is a

286
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moment in time that can't be replicated

287
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this will never happen again the access

288
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to the ranch during the investigations

289
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that will never happen again the time is

290
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right and the time is definitely now

291
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notoriety of Skinwalker Ranch exploded

292
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in 2005 with the publication of the book

293
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hunt for the skinwalker which was

294
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written by George Knapp and Colin

295
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Kelleher that book exploded this area

296
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onto the map George's documentation was

297
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uh exclusive it was happening while

298
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investigators were on the ranch I mean

299
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look there are no images from Skinwalker

300
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Ranch there's no video there's no

301
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footage during these investigations the

302
00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,500
only footage of this is in these

303
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archived boxes of George Knapps it was

304
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like Raiders of the Lost Ark man

305
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documents and paperwork and footage it's

306
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everything that George Knapp has

307
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accumulated over 20 something years is

308
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the only journalist ever allowed to be

309
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on the ranch and to document and film so

310
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it's this incredible opportunity the

311
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footage was held back it was embargoed

312
00:14:16,019 --> 00:14:21,480
it was shut off so to be able to pull

313
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tapes from that Archive of those boxes

314
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it's really rare footage it's incredible

315
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that we're at the point where it can be

316
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shown to the public

317
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skin walker Ranch this is like the area

318
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51 of the Paranormal if any of this is

319
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true this is game changing

320
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going public now

321
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[Music]

322
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this is officially the second Homestead

323
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down here yes

324
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this is where uh it's a pretty hairy

325
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stuff has happened

326
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just in the area

327
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in the middle of the night in what looks

328
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like the middle of nowhere we slice into

329
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Inky darkness in the company of

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investigators who've taken a bouncy ride

331
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down this same rutted road hundreds of

332
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times they remember every barbed wire

333
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gate every curve and dip and they

334
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remember all too well the location of

335
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every bizarre encounter they've

336
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documented since 1996. the dirt Trail is

337
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the only path through the property

338
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seemingly the only way anyone or

339
00:15:44,639 --> 00:15:49,440
anything can get in or out though there

340
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may be other less obvious points of

341
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entry on moonless nights the darkness

342
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hangs like a heavy blanket smothering

343
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beams of artificial light Beyond 20 feet

344
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it's blackness

345
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we stop in What's called the middle

346
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Homestead where the gangly branches of

347
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towering cottonwoods and Gulf Stark

348
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weather beaten structures rustic homes

349
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that have been empty for 50 years or

350
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more seriously it's like the backdrop

351
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for a slasher movie except this wasn't

352
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created by a set designer this is the

353
00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:23,480
throbbing heart of Skinwalker Ranch

354
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what is it about this place not merely

355
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the ranch but the entire Uinta basin

356
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it is a Grand Central Station

357
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a place where everything from cattle

358
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mutilations to Bigfoot to

359
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UFOs flying objects and they all seem to

360
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be congregated on on a 480 acre ranch in

361
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northeastern Utah a lot of people

362
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we understand have seen these things

363
00:16:48,179 --> 00:16:55,679
over the years in this area of hundreds

364
00:16:52,799 --> 00:16:57,659
hundreds of people in my opinion I had

365
00:16:55,679 --> 00:16:58,919
some girlfriends that I kind of ran

366
00:16:57,659 --> 00:17:02,819
around with but

367
00:16:58,919 --> 00:17:04,379
back in 778 and they told me experiences

368
00:17:02,820 --> 00:17:05,759
that that help out by water bottle

369
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Hollow you know

370
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lights that are forms that would be

371
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above them when they were scared at the

372
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ranch as you well know it was not a

373
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single phenomena it was not go out and

374
00:17:16,558 --> 00:17:20,939
watch a UFO go out and watch uh you know

375
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the lights like the Marvel lights or

376
00:17:20,939 --> 00:17:24,419
something

377
00:17:22,140 --> 00:17:27,059
there were a host of things that

378
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happened when and where were quite

379
00:17:27,058 --> 00:17:31,619
unpredictable except if it happened

380
00:17:28,740 --> 00:17:34,099
within a relatively small geographic

381
00:17:31,619 --> 00:17:37,439
area the UFO

382
00:17:34,099 --> 00:17:39,719
manifestation activity here ranges all

383
00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,980
over in this country it's the Basin is a

384
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very I don't know what the square

385
00:17:40,980 --> 00:17:47,099
mileage is but it's huge in northeastern

386
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Utah and at to the uen mountains to the

387
00:17:47,099 --> 00:17:52,019
north office the same type of Paranormal

388
00:17:49,380 --> 00:17:55,280
Activity is demonstrated many case

389
00:17:52,019 --> 00:17:55,279
histories up there as well

390
00:17:56,519 --> 00:18:00,599
for as long as humans have lived in this

391
00:17:58,679 --> 00:18:03,360
part of Northeastern Utah they've

392
00:18:00,599 --> 00:18:05,459
reported strange things in the sky in

393
00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,859
and around their homes and sometimes

394
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inside their heads a Byzantine

395
00:18:07,859 --> 00:18:13,019
smattering of unusual phenomena a

396
00:18:10,619 --> 00:18:15,779
paranormal stew it's as if some other

397
00:18:13,019 --> 00:18:18,298
reality occasionally bleeds into our

398
00:18:15,779 --> 00:18:18,990
world giving us glimpses of the universe

399
00:18:18,298 --> 00:18:22,048
next door

400
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[Music]

401
00:18:22,619 --> 00:18:27,119
on our first visit to the ranch we tried

402
00:18:25,259 --> 00:18:29,519
to get the attention of whatever it is

403
00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:31,918
that lives here sometimes merely the

404
00:18:29,519 --> 00:18:34,200
arrival of Outsiders is enough so we

405
00:18:31,919 --> 00:18:36,440
hiked around made noise Disturbed the

406
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Earth

407
00:18:37,319 --> 00:18:41,759
and at night we built a fire out in the

408
00:18:39,839 --> 00:18:44,279
middle Homestead which has been a focal

409
00:18:41,759 --> 00:18:46,259
point of dramatic and unexplained events

410
00:18:44,279 --> 00:18:48,359
we did everything short of painting a

411
00:18:46,259 --> 00:18:50,940
bullseye on our foreheads and then we

412
00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:53,159
waited on the other side of the fire a

413
00:18:50,940 --> 00:18:55,200
man who spent 27 years as a law

414
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enforcement officer in the Uinta Basin

415
00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,220
he asked that we not use his real name

416
00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,558
so we'll call him Preston

417
00:18:59,220 --> 00:19:03,900
there is one of the local newspapers did

418
00:19:01,558 --> 00:19:05,519
a well I guess you call like a poll in

419
00:19:03,900 --> 00:19:08,820
this area

420
00:19:05,519 --> 00:19:12,599
I have several people the question that

421
00:19:08,819 --> 00:19:16,319
you believe that there are

422
00:19:12,599 --> 00:19:19,558
in UFOs and do you believe that the U

423
00:19:16,319 --> 00:19:21,980
Innovation is a hot spot for it and uh I

424
00:19:19,558 --> 00:19:25,019
think that it was like four out of five

425
00:19:21,980 --> 00:19:27,599
the answer was yes

426
00:19:25,019 --> 00:19:30,480
and then the majority of them said that

427
00:19:27,599 --> 00:19:32,939
they was undecided I don't know of one

428
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:35,880
individual that that absolutely said no

429
00:19:32,940 --> 00:19:38,759
I do not believe him that that they even

430
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:41,580
exist and I'm referring to long time

431
00:19:38,759 --> 00:19:43,140
residents of the Basin that that was

432
00:19:41,579 --> 00:19:45,659
born and raised here in the basement

433
00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:47,580
Preston remembers when the waves of

434
00:19:45,660 --> 00:19:50,460
reports started pouring into local

435
00:19:47,579 --> 00:19:52,558
police I believe it's 1971 when I first

436
00:19:50,460 --> 00:19:57,120
started in law enforcement

437
00:19:52,558 --> 00:19:58,558
there was several reports of UFO

438
00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,558
sightings

439
00:19:58,558 --> 00:20:04,440
that was put out to like law enforcement

440
00:20:01,558 --> 00:20:06,660
officers in the field as I recall there

441
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:09,000
was three to four those reports that I

442
00:20:06,660 --> 00:20:11,340
received where I actually witnessed

443
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:14,099
what I believed to be

444
00:20:11,339 --> 00:20:16,439
an unidentified foreign object his wife

445
00:20:14,099 --> 00:20:18,779
also had multiple sightings one that

446
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:21,779
coincided with a mutilated cow on

447
00:20:18,779 --> 00:20:24,839
Preston's property and another in 1995

448
00:20:21,779 --> 00:20:27,240
directly over Skinwalker Ranch Preston

449
00:20:24,839 --> 00:20:29,459
interviewed his own wife in 1998 and

450
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,798
wrote this report for a private research

451
00:20:29,460 --> 00:20:34,319
group the object his wife reported was

452
00:20:31,798 --> 00:20:36,599
shaped like a hexagon aluminum colored

453
00:20:34,319 --> 00:20:40,859
with multiple lights what she described

454
00:20:36,599 --> 00:20:43,798
was four lights like connected to a bar

455
00:20:40,859 --> 00:20:48,538
they were just four large lights that

456
00:20:43,798 --> 00:20:51,000
appeared over the Ridge and I was some

457
00:20:48,538 --> 00:20:52,558
distance away from her when she seen it

458
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,359
and she called it to my attention but

459
00:20:52,558 --> 00:20:56,940
before I could get there they had

460
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:59,579
disappeared this is probably the most

461
00:20:56,940 --> 00:21:01,558
studied real estate in the in the

462
00:20:59,579 --> 00:21:04,798
history of the UFO phenomenon

463
00:21:01,558 --> 00:21:07,019
there has never been to our knowledge a

464
00:21:04,798 --> 00:21:10,940
place that has had the same kind of

465
00:21:07,019 --> 00:21:10,940
focus in terms of study

466
00:21:13,019 --> 00:21:17,339
the Uintah Basin isn't the middle of

467
00:21:15,058 --> 00:21:19,558
nowhere it's far removed from big cities

468
00:21:17,339 --> 00:21:21,779
but that's how the locals like it the

469
00:21:19,558 --> 00:21:24,418
landscape is Stark and beautiful the

470
00:21:21,779 --> 00:21:27,058
dirt and rocks rich in hydrocarbons and

471
00:21:24,419 --> 00:21:29,340
dinosaur bones but something here seems

472
00:21:27,058 --> 00:21:31,678
to be a magnet for the unknown it's been

473
00:21:29,339 --> 00:21:34,019
that way for a long time

474
00:21:31,679 --> 00:21:36,840
in the Uinta Basin unknown aerial

475
00:21:34,019 --> 00:21:39,359
objects became so commonplace in the 60s

476
00:21:36,839 --> 00:21:41,399
and 70s that locals became used to

477
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,918
seeing them and outside investigators

478
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:46,259
were drawn to the area one of them Utah

479
00:21:43,919 --> 00:21:48,780
State University scientist Dr Frank

480
00:21:46,259 --> 00:21:52,319
Salisbury wrote a highly regarded book

481
00:21:48,779 --> 00:21:54,599
the Utah UFO display after weeding out

482
00:21:52,319 --> 00:21:56,819
the 90 percent of sightings which were

483
00:21:54,599 --> 00:22:00,019
likely misidentifications of known

484
00:21:56,819 --> 00:22:02,819
objects he focused on 400 or so

485
00:22:00,019 --> 00:22:05,099
well-documented cases involving unknown

486
00:22:02,819 --> 00:22:07,619
structured craft of many shapes and

487
00:22:05,099 --> 00:22:09,839
sizes Salisbury obtained most of the

488
00:22:07,619 --> 00:22:12,599
case files from lifelong resident Joseph

489
00:22:09,839 --> 00:22:15,359
Junior Hicks a local science teacher

490
00:22:12,599 --> 00:22:17,879
who'd educated generations of Uinta

491
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:20,038
residents Hicks spent years driving the

492
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,380
back roads of the Basin to meet and

493
00:22:20,038 --> 00:22:24,839
interview eyewitnesses many of them his

494
00:22:22,380 --> 00:22:26,940
former students and I says can you see

495
00:22:24,839 --> 00:22:29,759
that look at that that's amazing

496
00:22:26,940 --> 00:22:32,179
and it was around

497
00:22:29,759 --> 00:22:35,879
Gray

498
00:22:32,179 --> 00:22:38,580
metallic looking thing in January 1999

499
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,440
oil company executive Gregory Todd was

500
00:22:38,579 --> 00:22:42,480
driving home from work talking on the

501
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,159
phone to a co-worker headed in the

502
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,500
opposite direction toward the town of

503
00:22:44,159 --> 00:22:49,500
Vernal Todd noticed an object that

504
00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:52,140
looked like this roundish gray metallic

505
00:22:49,500 --> 00:22:54,538
with no wings or tail traveling at a

506
00:22:52,140 --> 00:22:57,780
high rate of speed toward the ground

507
00:22:54,538 --> 00:23:00,419
and I says this is amazing and it was it

508
00:22:57,779 --> 00:23:02,460
came down and it was went behind some

509
00:23:00,419 --> 00:23:04,679
clouds that were just kind of on the

510
00:23:02,460 --> 00:23:05,880
horizon and I said that had to be

511
00:23:04,679 --> 00:23:08,159
humongous

512
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,860
you know and I thought okay explosion

513
00:23:08,159 --> 00:23:12,539
something you know and I never did there

514
00:23:10,859 --> 00:23:14,519
was nothing the next day at work he

515
00:23:12,538 --> 00:23:16,319
spoke to a group of friends and I said

516
00:23:14,519 --> 00:23:17,940
okay guys I'm going to ask you something

517
00:23:16,319 --> 00:23:19,619
did you guys see something weird last

518
00:23:17,940 --> 00:23:21,480
night and they just happened to be

519
00:23:19,619 --> 00:23:23,639
coming down the Blue Bell Road facing

520
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,440
south and they said yeah we saw this

521
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,360
round thing you know and it wasn't any

522
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,640
big deal to them you know yeah we just

523
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:32,879
saw this round thing in the sky and I

524
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:35,820
thought well you know what

525
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:38,280
think about it you know and I said then

526
00:23:35,819 --> 00:23:40,759
I said okay that thing is Big that was

527
00:23:38,279 --> 00:23:43,918
big whatever it was was big because

528
00:23:40,759 --> 00:23:46,619
Bluebell is 20 miles away I was five

529
00:23:43,919 --> 00:23:48,900
miles away from Roosevelt on three

530
00:23:46,619 --> 00:23:50,699
different groups saw it a few places in

531
00:23:48,900 --> 00:23:53,340
the world have had so many sightings

532
00:23:50,700 --> 00:23:55,500
over such a long period of time not just

533
00:23:53,339 --> 00:23:57,298
decades but centuries the earliest

534
00:23:55,500 --> 00:24:00,140
report is from the Journal of Father

535
00:23:57,298 --> 00:24:03,960
Escalante the Spanish missionary who in

536
00:24:00,140 --> 00:24:06,480
1776 led the first European party across

537
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:09,120
the Basin but Uinta is much more than a

538
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:11,700
UFO Hot Spot the object seen in the

539
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:14,219
skies are benign distractions compared

540
00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:16,080
to the bizarre events on the ground in

541
00:24:14,220 --> 00:24:18,720
particular on this strip of green

542
00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:20,819
pasture that's said to be in the path of

543
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:25,640
the skinwalker they believe that they're

544
00:24:20,819 --> 00:24:27,960
like you talk about the skinwalker is is

545
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:31,740
extraterrestrial this is something

546
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:34,340
that's in their culture it has been for

547
00:24:31,740 --> 00:24:34,339
forever

548
00:24:40,798 --> 00:24:45,480
but this story is bigger than just the

549
00:24:42,839 --> 00:24:48,119
ranch this story is an Ever pervasive

550
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:50,159
River churning and leaching seemingly

551
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,939
paranormal oohs throughout the

552
00:24:50,159 --> 00:24:52,940
surrounding area

553
00:24:53,099 --> 00:24:58,079
it creeps to the edges

554
00:24:55,740 --> 00:25:01,919
if there's an unofficial UFO capital in

555
00:24:58,079 --> 00:25:04,319
Utah it's the northeastern corner

556
00:25:01,919 --> 00:25:07,820
quietly and secretly there's been a

557
00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:07,819
current that runs through this area

558
00:25:10,019 --> 00:25:15,058
throw a rock in any direction in a small

559
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,038
town of the Uinta Basin and you're

560
00:25:15,058 --> 00:25:19,279
likely to hit someone who's seen an

561
00:25:17,038 --> 00:25:23,279
anomalous aerial object

562
00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:24,720
the Basin is a UFO hotbed the locals are

563
00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:26,220
reluctant to talk about it with

564
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,380
Outsiders

565
00:25:26,220 --> 00:25:31,200
but the number of sightings easily

566
00:25:28,380 --> 00:25:33,720
ranges in the thousands

567
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,519
The Unofficial consensus is that more

568
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,380
than half of the people who live in the

569
00:25:35,519 --> 00:25:40,558
Basin have seen them

570
00:25:37,380 --> 00:25:43,940
over the mountains above the towns on

571
00:25:40,558 --> 00:25:48,918
roadways and oil fields anomalous lights

572
00:25:43,940 --> 00:25:48,919
maneuvering orbs and metallic craft

573
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:01,319
objects things which are not easily

574
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:04,180
explained

575
00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:05,700
why so many and why here

576
00:26:04,180 --> 00:26:09,778
[Music]

577
00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:11,700
Roosevelt Ballard Fort Duchesne you went

578
00:26:09,778 --> 00:26:14,400
to County

579
00:26:11,700 --> 00:26:16,080
for some the phenomenon provides a mecca

580
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,900
for curiosity

581
00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:21,359
but for those that experience it

582
00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:23,100
it's corrosive

583
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,979
like an acid

584
00:26:23,099 --> 00:26:28,740
and it's been here a long time

585
00:26:25,980 --> 00:26:31,140
stories of UFOs poltergeist-like

586
00:26:28,740 --> 00:26:34,140
occurrences and creatures of all kinds

587
00:26:31,140 --> 00:26:37,278
have popped the landscape and residents

588
00:26:34,140 --> 00:26:37,278
throughout Generations

589
00:26:37,919 --> 00:26:41,640
foreign

590
00:26:38,819 --> 00:26:43,980
normal people hard-working people

591
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:47,960
they're having extraordinary Encounters

592
00:26:43,980 --> 00:26:47,960
of every shape and Shadow

593
00:26:50,940 --> 00:26:54,440
it's just part of life out here

594
00:27:02,190 --> 00:27:07,910
[Music]

595
00:27:08,599 --> 00:27:13,918
we purchased the property as a living

596
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:17,520
laboratory it's been a phenomenal

597
00:27:13,919 --> 00:27:21,059
laboratory I feel humbled we did get a

598
00:27:17,519 --> 00:27:23,639
good education I think we still are the

599
00:27:21,058 --> 00:27:25,319
knits guys use dogs as biosensors the

600
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,640
dogs would be able to sense that

601
00:27:25,319 --> 00:27:29,099
something was near and give them

602
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:32,038
advanced warning they were unhantly

603
00:27:29,099 --> 00:27:35,038
accurate it tells us to 100 different

604
00:27:32,038 --> 00:27:38,099
incidents we train like hell to deal

605
00:27:35,038 --> 00:27:40,200
with animal mutilations with lights in

606
00:27:38,099 --> 00:27:43,439
the sky animals being moved into

607
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:46,140
different locations no two incidents

608
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,278
ever repeated themselves training is

609
00:27:46,140 --> 00:27:49,559
meaningless

610
00:27:47,278 --> 00:27:51,480
nothing is repeated and that has

611
00:27:49,558 --> 00:27:52,639
happened consistently it's the only

612
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,679
thing consistent

613
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:58,080
this is a lot more than a UFO story as

614
00:27:55,679 --> 00:28:01,140
you learn Consciousness plays a

615
00:27:58,079 --> 00:28:03,418
significant role in this topic it's

616
00:28:01,140 --> 00:28:06,059
something that's completely outside of

617
00:28:03,419 --> 00:28:08,820
our normal physics and understanding

618
00:28:06,058 --> 00:28:11,278
this is something that is beyond our

619
00:28:08,819 --> 00:28:13,500
normal means of Calgary it became

620
00:28:11,278 --> 00:28:15,269
obvious that we were along for the ride

621
00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:18,618
if we weren't the ones in control

622
00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:18,618
[Music]

623
00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:28,379
did you have an experience on the ranch

624
00:28:25,619 --> 00:28:30,239
my first visit there it had been a down

625
00:28:28,380 --> 00:28:31,980
period Colin Kelleher had told me look

626
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,900
at the activity has sort of gone

627
00:28:31,980 --> 00:28:36,839
underground that's why I was allowed to

628
00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:38,880
go because maybe they figured I could my

629
00:28:36,839 --> 00:28:41,759
own inherent weirdness quotient I could

630
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,620
stir something up or I could at least

631
00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:45,179
tell the world a little bit about the

632
00:28:43,619 --> 00:28:47,339
story so that we could find out if there

633
00:28:45,179 --> 00:28:49,740
are other places like that so I went to

634
00:28:47,339 --> 00:28:51,418
the property and there's a couple of

635
00:28:49,740 --> 00:28:53,339
things that would happen that would

636
00:28:51,419 --> 00:28:55,580
stimulate activity historically they

637
00:28:53,339 --> 00:28:58,619
said arrival of a stranger that was me

638
00:28:55,579 --> 00:29:01,859
if you make a bunch of noise in

639
00:28:58,619 --> 00:29:04,319
particular digging up the Earth

640
00:29:01,859 --> 00:29:05,879
so we did all that we you know I made a

641
00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:08,099
bunch of Noise We built the fire out

642
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,440
there we danced around it and and then

643
00:29:08,099 --> 00:29:12,359
we got an earth mover and dug a bunch of

644
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,400
holes so if there was something to be

645
00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:16,199
disturbed we did our best to disturb it

646
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,320
and then they took me and put me on a

647
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:21,058
chair in the middle Homestead where some

648
00:29:19,319 --> 00:29:23,460
really bad stuff had happened and they

649
00:29:21,058 --> 00:29:25,859
left me there it was a

650
00:29:23,460 --> 00:29:29,640
pitch black middle of the night middle

651
00:29:25,859 --> 00:29:32,579
of nowhere and a place that where the uh

652
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,980
Monster uh the Predator type monster had

653
00:29:32,579 --> 00:29:37,619
appeared were a giant Dark Cloud had

654
00:29:34,980 --> 00:29:39,960
invaded a physicist mind where several

655
00:29:37,619 --> 00:29:42,538
cattle had been mutilated weren't a ball

656
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,819
of light to a dimensional Wormhole that

657
00:29:42,538 --> 00:29:46,619
appeared I'm right there and they said

658
00:29:44,819 --> 00:29:48,538
see ya and they went a couple hundred

659
00:29:46,619 --> 00:29:50,819
yards away and put a camera on me to see

660
00:29:48,538 --> 00:29:53,038
if something came and got me and I'd

661
00:29:50,819 --> 00:29:54,599
like to tell people that I was

662
00:29:53,038 --> 00:29:58,259
um Brave I'm not afraid of this stuff

663
00:29:54,599 --> 00:30:00,058
but I was I was on edge uh wait and see

664
00:29:58,259 --> 00:30:02,339
what would happen I'm thinking to myself

665
00:30:00,058 --> 00:30:04,500
look okay I'm fine with flying saucers

666
00:30:02,339 --> 00:30:06,058
coming here I'd like to see a ball of

667
00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:08,099
light and orb something like that that'd

668
00:30:06,058 --> 00:30:09,839
be really great but

669
00:30:08,099 --> 00:30:13,079
I don't really want to come face to face

670
00:30:09,839 --> 00:30:15,538
with Predator monster uh the only thing

671
00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:18,480
that came to get me were mosquitoes so I

672
00:30:15,538 --> 00:30:21,119
have had no a novelist experience on the

673
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,640
ranch myself but I've interviewed all

674
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:25,139
the people all the key players every

675
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,899
single one of them the people who had

676
00:30:25,140 --> 00:30:29,940
been there for years the only people I

677
00:30:27,898 --> 00:30:33,058
haven't interviewed is the Gorman family

678
00:30:29,940 --> 00:30:35,340
themselves the Shermans but but I have

679
00:30:33,058 --> 00:30:38,038
all these transcribed interviews that

680
00:30:35,339 --> 00:30:39,480
nid's folks had done and in all the

681
00:30:38,038 --> 00:30:41,579
material they collected during the

682
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,960
height of the study so I feel like I

683
00:30:41,579 --> 00:30:44,579
know him and I've talked to the

684
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,100
neighbors I've talked to people in town

685
00:30:44,579 --> 00:30:49,500
this stuff is real it's been going on a

686
00:30:47,099 --> 00:30:51,359
long time and everybody who lives there

687
00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:54,058
knows about it so George Knapp

688
00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:55,678
investigative reporter and bait for

689
00:30:54,058 --> 00:30:57,898
Skinwalker Ranch

690
00:30:55,679 --> 00:31:00,659
I was bait

691
00:30:57,898 --> 00:31:04,899
um it's a good story to tell now it

692
00:31:00,659 --> 00:31:08,028
wasn't pleasant at the time uh it wasn't

693
00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:08,028
[Music]

694
00:31:13,519 --> 00:31:18,720
two indigenous locals this stretch of

695
00:31:16,380 --> 00:31:20,880
red Sandstone is special because it is

696
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,940
quote in the path of the skinwalker

697
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,860
according to members of the Ute tribe

698
00:31:23,940 --> 00:31:28,620
the first time we heard that phrase the

699
00:31:25,859 --> 00:31:30,778
reaction was what's a skinwalker it's a

700
00:31:28,619 --> 00:31:33,178
touchy subject for many tribes including

701
00:31:30,778 --> 00:31:36,240
the youths whose sprawling Nation covers

702
00:31:33,179 --> 00:31:38,038
1.3 million acres in this country the

703
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,440
Utes were ordered to move here around

704
00:31:38,038 --> 00:31:42,599
the end of the Civil War the U.S army

705
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:45,058
built and staffed a fort to keep an eye

706
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:46,740
on them today the Utes coexist with

707
00:31:45,058 --> 00:31:49,259
their neighbors while retaining their

708
00:31:46,740 --> 00:31:52,079
own government police force businesses

709
00:31:49,259 --> 00:31:55,140
and culture this is something that's uh

710
00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:56,460
interculture it has been for just

711
00:31:55,140 --> 00:31:58,320
forever

712
00:31:56,460 --> 00:32:00,840
Preston worked as a tribal police

713
00:31:58,319 --> 00:32:02,819
officer for several years but says few

714
00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:04,859
of his youth friends are willing to talk

715
00:32:02,819 --> 00:32:07,798
about Skin Walkers or you could compare

716
00:32:04,859 --> 00:32:10,379
it to the uh nymph that you hear of

717
00:32:07,798 --> 00:32:13,859
werewolves like an individual that turns

718
00:32:10,380 --> 00:32:16,500
into a animal type being most of them

719
00:32:13,859 --> 00:32:18,839
are very reluctant to talk about in

720
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:21,659
tribal lore a skinwalker is an evil

721
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:24,480
presence a sorcerer and shapeshifter who

722
00:32:21,659 --> 00:32:26,760
steals lives and souls even mentioning

723
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,679
the word is considered risky and this

724
00:32:26,759 --> 00:32:31,558
Ridge said to be in the path of the

725
00:32:28,679 --> 00:32:33,538
skinwalker is a borderline of sorts it

726
00:32:31,558 --> 00:32:36,418
overlooks an island of private Ranch

727
00:32:33,538 --> 00:32:38,339
property surrounded by tribal lands the

728
00:32:36,419 --> 00:32:40,740
tribe doesn't prohibit members from

729
00:32:38,339 --> 00:32:42,839
visiting the ranches but strongly warns

730
00:32:40,740 --> 00:32:44,899
against it in part because strange

731
00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:46,980
things seem to be concentrated here

732
00:32:44,898 --> 00:32:49,619
Skinwalker is sort of a blanket

733
00:32:46,980 --> 00:32:52,380
explanation for a range of inexplicable

734
00:32:49,619 --> 00:32:55,319
events there does seem to have been a

735
00:32:52,380 --> 00:32:58,200
change between the 70s and the 90s in

736
00:32:55,319 --> 00:33:00,658
the certainly not the effects of the

737
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:04,640
phenomena on different people where in

738
00:33:00,659 --> 00:33:07,559
the 70s you didn't get the scary stuff

739
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,240
even in the Uinta Basin and and we're

740
00:33:07,558 --> 00:33:11,158
going mostly on the testimony of Junior

741
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,140
Hicks and if and

742
00:33:11,159 --> 00:33:14,659
probably a couple of dozen other

743
00:33:13,140 --> 00:33:18,000
Witnesses

744
00:33:14,659 --> 00:33:19,919
whereas in the 90s most of the activity

745
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,538
that we have is centered around this

746
00:33:19,919 --> 00:33:24,000
this this Ranch

747
00:33:21,538 --> 00:33:28,319
and that was all kind of very scary

748
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,980
Poltergeist kind of uh stuff that

749
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:31,500
um

750
00:33:28,980 --> 00:33:34,500
it seems to have changed in character

751
00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:37,319
even though the same silver discs have

752
00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:39,058
been seen Mexican hot type UFOs have

753
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:41,038
been seen in the in the area

754
00:33:39,058 --> 00:33:43,558
but overlaid on that you've got these

755
00:33:41,038 --> 00:33:46,259
multiple kind of poltergeist psychic

756
00:33:43,558 --> 00:33:48,298
type type stuff biochemist Dr column

757
00:33:46,259 --> 00:33:50,579
Kelleher didn't expect to be sitting in

758
00:33:48,298 --> 00:33:52,859
a dark cow pasture talking about Skin

759
00:33:50,579 --> 00:33:55,379
Walkers and poltergeists when he signed

760
00:33:52,859 --> 00:33:57,839
on with nids the National Institute for

761
00:33:55,380 --> 00:34:00,240
Discovery Science founded in the mid 90s

762
00:33:57,839 --> 00:34:02,879
by Las Vegas billionaire Robert Bigelow

763
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:05,038
Bigelow's lifelong interest in UFO

764
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:08,220
research led to nids and to the

765
00:34:05,038 --> 00:34:10,559
ownership of this 480 acre ranch it's a

766
00:34:08,219 --> 00:34:13,259
somewhat Twisted Tale the property had

767
00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:16,079
been vacant for seven years when in 1994

768
00:34:13,260 --> 00:34:18,300
a family bought it it was their dream to

769
00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:20,639
raise high-end cemental cattle here

770
00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:23,220
there's only one entrance a gate that

771
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:25,440
displayed an eerie sign a single dirt

772
00:34:23,219 --> 00:34:27,539
road leads into the property which is

773
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,579
made up of three Parcels the first

774
00:34:27,539 --> 00:34:31,679
Homestead on the east side is where the

775
00:34:29,579 --> 00:34:34,079
ranch house is located along with a

776
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:36,720
Corral a second middle Homestead

777
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:38,819
contains long abandoned buildings the

778
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,638
third Homestead is ringed by tall trees

779
00:34:38,820 --> 00:34:43,500
and underbrushed a river flows on the

780
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:45,960
south side of the ranch and on the North

781
00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:48,239
the Sandstone Ridge the family of four

782
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,159
had a startling encounter on their very

783
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,079
first weekend there from out of the

784
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:54,659
brush on the south edge of the property

785
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:56,639
they saw a huge canine walking toward

786
00:34:54,659 --> 00:34:58,800
them and they had put a couple of carbs

787
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:59,579
in this Corral here

788
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,180
um

789
00:34:59,579 --> 00:35:06,598
and this one here and they saw this this

790
00:35:03,179 --> 00:35:08,399
wolf had was just trotting across the uh

791
00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:10,140
the field here

792
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,320
from this direction

793
00:35:10,139 --> 00:35:15,420
and it stopped occasionally it was there

794
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:18,119
was a light rain it was it was a misty

795
00:35:15,420 --> 00:35:19,980
kind of a day with with light rain and

796
00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:21,780
so they were watching this wolf as it

797
00:35:19,980 --> 00:35:26,039
was coming towards them

798
00:35:21,780 --> 00:35:27,599
um and seemingly kind of unconcerned the

799
00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:30,059
family assumed the wolf must be

800
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:32,400
someone's pet it was huge but seemed

801
00:35:30,059 --> 00:35:34,380
tame one of the calves made the mistake

802
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:37,139
of sticking its snout through the bars

803
00:35:34,380 --> 00:35:39,720
of the Corral the wolf stuck his head in

804
00:35:37,139 --> 00:35:42,719
into the Corral grabbed the the muzzle

805
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:45,598
of the of the calf in full view of these

806
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:49,139
to try to drag it out of of the Corral

807
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:52,859
the calf you know was going wild so

808
00:35:49,139 --> 00:35:55,980
Terry and his dad went over with you

809
00:35:52,858 --> 00:35:58,078
know Stout sticks and started beating on

810
00:35:55,980 --> 00:36:02,460
the on the wolf to try to let get it

811
00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:04,980
make sure that it let go the uh the calf

812
00:36:02,460 --> 00:36:06,960
several times they beat on the on the on

813
00:36:04,980 --> 00:36:09,539
the wolf without any effect whatsoever

814
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:12,599
so Terry asked his son to go in to get a

815
00:36:09,539 --> 00:36:14,639
357 Magnum

816
00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:16,680
the sun came out and the the wolf was

817
00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:18,539
still dragging trying to drag the the

818
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:21,480
car through the Corral

819
00:36:18,539 --> 00:36:24,719
and Terry sort of uh pointed the Magnum

820
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:27,059
at the animal and shot it now as far as

821
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,739
I remember he shot at either three or

822
00:36:27,059 --> 00:36:31,858
four times and it was like from

823
00:36:28,739 --> 00:36:34,199
increasingly close range first of all it

824
00:36:31,858 --> 00:36:36,659
was from from several feet and then it

825
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:39,480
was closer and closer on the fourth shot

826
00:36:36,659 --> 00:36:42,420
the animal I believe let the uh let the

827
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:45,179
the calf go but the the animal was

828
00:36:42,420 --> 00:36:46,740
didn't the the wolf didn't let out any

829
00:36:45,179 --> 00:36:49,078
Yelps of pain

830
00:36:46,739 --> 00:36:52,139
that there was no sign of blood there

831
00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:53,880
was there was no sign of of distress the

832
00:36:52,139 --> 00:36:56,219
other the animal let the calf go and

833
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,079
looked at Terry the Rancher's son had

834
00:36:56,219 --> 00:37:00,779
run to the house to retrieve a hunting

835
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:03,000
rifle he handed it to his father Terry

836
00:37:00,780 --> 00:37:05,940
gets the 30-06 which you know can bring

837
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:08,880
bring down an elk you know from uh from

838
00:37:05,940 --> 00:37:12,480
a relatively long distance shot it at

839
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:14,640
you know a distance of 20 feet and this

840
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,699
time there was a big recoil from the

841
00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:19,199
animal you know the animal kind of uh

842
00:37:16,699 --> 00:37:21,299
recalled but still didn't give out any

843
00:37:19,199 --> 00:37:23,939
pain or anything like that

844
00:37:21,300 --> 00:37:27,359
but kind of backed off for maybe 10 feet

845
00:37:23,940 --> 00:37:29,880
15 feet and Terry shot at it it was

846
00:37:27,358 --> 00:37:33,900
actually a sixth time with the 30 odd

847
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:36,300
six and this time he saw a bunch of

848
00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:40,019
Flesh that the bullet exited from the

849
00:37:36,300 --> 00:37:42,359
animal with with flesh and this time the

850
00:37:40,019 --> 00:37:45,179
animal just kind of turned on its on its

851
00:37:42,358 --> 00:37:48,420
heel and just trotted off

852
00:37:45,179 --> 00:37:50,338
you know almost casually and exactly

853
00:37:48,420 --> 00:37:52,440
where it would come from across in that

854
00:37:50,338 --> 00:37:53,820
direction

855
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,700
now

856
00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:59,039
um you know the piece of Flesh was lying

857
00:37:56,699 --> 00:38:01,319
on the ground and they they examined it

858
00:37:59,039 --> 00:38:03,300
later the Father and Son both armed with

859
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,160
rifles went after the wolf catching

860
00:38:03,300 --> 00:38:07,260
glimpses as it moved through thickets

861
00:38:05,159 --> 00:38:08,819
and following the Deep tracks it left in

862
00:38:07,260 --> 00:38:10,740
the wet ground well what they did was

863
00:38:08,820 --> 00:38:12,780
they tracked the animal all the way

864
00:38:10,739 --> 00:38:15,000
across to the creek there's a creek

865
00:38:12,780 --> 00:38:17,160
about half a mile to three-quarters of a

866
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,719
mile in that direction they tracked the

867
00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:20,940
animal you know they went after the

868
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,399
animal and they found that its tracks

869
00:38:20,940 --> 00:38:25,920
just stopped suddenly in a muddy bank

870
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,700
right by the creek it just just seemed

871
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,519
to

872
00:38:26,699 --> 00:38:32,699
the tracks went nowhere you know they

873
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:34,440
were they were going to a specific area

874
00:38:32,699 --> 00:38:36,899
they should not have vanished but they

875
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:39,480
vanished but they came back then and

876
00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:41,519
they they found the uh the piece of uh

877
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,980
of tissue from the the animal that had

878
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:47,759
been blown off by the 30 odd six

879
00:38:43,980 --> 00:38:50,099
and to them it looked old it looked

880
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:53,460
um almost like it beat the beginnings of

881
00:38:50,099 --> 00:38:55,920
Decay decayed flesh

882
00:38:53,460 --> 00:38:58,139
it blew them this this incident blew

883
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,180
them away because even a single shot

884
00:38:58,139 --> 00:39:02,940
from a 357 Magnum should have brought

885
00:39:00,179 --> 00:39:05,098
that wolf down now

886
00:39:02,940 --> 00:39:07,858
um should remember that this wolf

887
00:39:05,099 --> 00:39:10,140
initially was very friendly to them it

888
00:39:07,858 --> 00:39:12,299
actually walked right up to the dad and

889
00:39:10,139 --> 00:39:13,858
the dad patted it on its head I mean so

890
00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:16,019
we're not talking about some kind of

891
00:39:13,858 --> 00:39:18,480
Mirage we're not talking about some kind

892
00:39:16,019 --> 00:39:21,960
of of hallucination this was a physical

893
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:24,119
animal he patted him he smelt like wet

894
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,039
dog think about I mean where do you how

895
00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:29,039
do you you characterize that there

896
00:39:26,039 --> 00:39:31,920
really is no context even to put that in

897
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:33,420
because it was it was a physical animal

898
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,099
that was

899
00:39:33,420 --> 00:39:37,680
um that looked like it was flesh and

900
00:39:35,099 --> 00:39:39,480
blood they chalked it up as being

901
00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:42,059
totally bizarre they talked about it for

902
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:44,460
weeks afterwards because this was really

903
00:39:42,059 --> 00:39:46,440
the first incident that they had

904
00:39:44,460 --> 00:39:48,599
encountered just after moving on the on

905
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,760
the ranch they as I said they were just

906
00:39:48,599 --> 00:39:51,720
moving into their the general area they

907
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,119
were I think they were putting furniture

908
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:57,059
into the house and

909
00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:59,940
um this animal was between two and three

910
00:39:57,059 --> 00:40:01,980
times the size of a normal wolf you know

911
00:39:59,940 --> 00:40:04,260
normal wolf would would kind of come up

912
00:40:01,980 --> 00:40:06,240
to there well this thing was like this

913
00:40:04,260 --> 00:40:08,160
thing was huge later at the Gate

914
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,078
entrance the Rancher's wife had another

915
00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:12,000
encounter with a huge wolf as she

916
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:14,700
entered the property the wolf was in the

917
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,099
company of two black dogs with oversized

918
00:40:14,699 --> 00:40:19,078
heads months later when the family was

919
00:40:17,099 --> 00:40:21,480
asked to describe the wolf by looking at

920
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:23,880
a lineup of different types they pointed

921
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:26,460
to this Beast as the one closest to what

922
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:30,200
they'd seen it's a Dire Wolf and has

923
00:40:26,460 --> 00:40:30,199
been extinct for ten thousand years

924
00:40:40,159 --> 00:40:45,259
we live in the middle of some other kind

925
00:40:42,599 --> 00:40:45,260
of intelligence

926
00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:52,320
the secrecy begins with them whoever

927
00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:57,199
they are these visitors these entities

928
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:57,200
that interject themselves into our Lives

929
00:40:57,449 --> 00:41:08,159
[Music]

930
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:10,019
who they are why they're here what their

931
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:12,299
interest is in us long term we don't

932
00:41:10,019 --> 00:41:13,800
know the answers we can surmise but we

933
00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:17,280
don't know the answer is to any of the

934
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:19,140
big stuff but we can say I can say with

935
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,720
certainty that there is some kind of

936
00:41:19,139 --> 00:41:24,900
intelligence operating here that it

937
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:28,679
shows us glimpses of itself from time to

938
00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:31,619
time on its own agenda but it is the

939
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:34,019
architect of the secrecy I believe that

940
00:41:31,619 --> 00:41:35,700
there are aspects of Consciousness that

941
00:41:34,019 --> 00:41:39,000
are associated with the UFO phenomena

942
00:41:35,699 --> 00:41:41,699
that we have not addressed fully the

943
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:44,820
global public is not ready to have

944
00:41:41,699 --> 00:41:48,799
Global confirmations a lot of disturbing

945
00:41:44,820 --> 00:41:51,180
things will occur it's just too powerful

946
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,359
people have ignored these facts they

947
00:41:51,179 --> 00:41:55,379
like it to go away it's not going away

948
00:41:53,358 --> 00:41:57,358
it's not going away because the

949
00:41:55,380 --> 00:42:00,480
phenomenon itself doesn't go away it's

950
00:41:57,358 --> 00:42:02,699
been with humans every continent every

951
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,559
culture throughout human history it's

952
00:42:02,699 --> 00:42:06,980
here whether we like it or not and it's

953
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:06,980
here today

954
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:19,019
according to tribal lore some of the

955
00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:21,539
unusual events in and around the ranch

956
00:42:19,019 --> 00:42:23,519
are believed to be the handiwork of a

957
00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:26,820
shape-shifting entity known as a

958
00:42:23,519 --> 00:42:28,980
skinwalker the youths also believe that

959
00:42:26,820 --> 00:42:31,800
lights seen on the property could be the

960
00:42:28,980 --> 00:42:34,500
spirits of long-departed ancestors that

961
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:37,140
enter this world from under the ground

962
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:39,838
but tribal members also see the same

963
00:42:37,139 --> 00:42:42,000
metallic UFOs witnessed elsewhere in the

964
00:42:39,838 --> 00:42:45,179
Basin these objects appear to be

965
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:48,059
technological not spiritual

966
00:42:45,179 --> 00:42:51,259
and a few of the encounters occur right

967
00:42:48,059 --> 00:42:51,259
in front of their faces

968
00:42:56,579 --> 00:42:59,400
morning when I noticed when I did my

969
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:01,140
rounds I usually go out the front door

970
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,940
where I came then go back all the way

971
00:43:01,139 --> 00:43:04,259
around the building that's when this

972
00:43:02,940 --> 00:43:05,700
voice appeared to my head and said hey

973
00:43:04,260 --> 00:43:07,740
get back inside you should have seen

974
00:43:05,699 --> 00:43:09,838
this shouldn't be out here you shouldn't

975
00:43:07,739 --> 00:43:12,419
be seeing this go back inside you're

976
00:43:09,838 --> 00:43:15,659
going to miss your family

977
00:43:12,420 --> 00:43:16,980
the hull of the ship was like this I

978
00:43:15,659 --> 00:43:18,779
don't know if you've ever seen like the

979
00:43:16,980 --> 00:43:21,300
the Star Trek Enterprise ship that you

980
00:43:18,780 --> 00:43:24,480
know how the round shape of that it was

981
00:43:21,300 --> 00:43:26,460
like that but like a black dark gray

982
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:29,280
and were you standing right here

983
00:43:26,460 --> 00:43:31,920
um no actually I was

984
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:34,380
standing right here and we're looking

985
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,599
out this door here we didn't see the

986
00:43:34,380 --> 00:43:37,980
ship per se right there but we saw the

987
00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:40,019
lights and we're like okay you know what

988
00:43:37,980 --> 00:43:42,719
the hell's going on so we walked out

989
00:43:40,019 --> 00:43:45,239
here me and the female client looking up

990
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:47,939
here and seeing this object and we're

991
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:50,098
like What then we noticed that it

992
00:43:47,940 --> 00:43:52,740
started kind of moving back a little bit

993
00:43:50,099 --> 00:43:56,579
I say we probably got about

994
00:43:52,739 --> 00:43:58,439
close to right here just looking at it

995
00:43:56,579 --> 00:43:59,339
and you can see it just like right there

996
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,559
like

997
00:43:59,338 --> 00:44:03,900
and the cloud and everything and the

998
00:44:01,559 --> 00:44:06,420
light and it was so intense and just

999
00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:08,338
like going like this like looking and

1000
00:44:06,420 --> 00:44:10,318
then I was talking to her and I was

1001
00:44:08,338 --> 00:44:13,139
pointing out hey that's a UFO that's a

1002
00:44:10,318 --> 00:44:14,880
[ __ ] UFO and I remember swearing at

1003
00:44:13,139 --> 00:44:16,559
the time too and we're standing there

1004
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,480
looking and I was looking like this and

1005
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:20,159
you know something just going through my

1006
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,440
head saying hey you shouldn't be out

1007
00:44:20,159 --> 00:44:23,940
here you shouldn't be seeing this you

1008
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,200
know and I was like oh shoot you know

1009
00:44:23,940 --> 00:44:27,300
and I was like hey let's go back inside

1010
00:44:25,199 --> 00:44:29,279
so we started going back in and we're

1011
00:44:27,300 --> 00:44:31,019
looking still that's why I said I wish

1012
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,540
people could have been awake at the time

1013
00:44:31,019 --> 00:44:36,000
during that Sunday morning to see what I

1014
00:44:33,539 --> 00:44:37,619
saw and I have people that Seena all the

1015
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,659
way up towards right rocks all the way

1016
00:44:37,619 --> 00:44:42,059
down towards fourth Corner randallette

1017
00:44:39,659 --> 00:44:44,219
that we're up at that time and those

1018
00:44:42,059 --> 00:44:46,440
that were here you know had that

1019
00:44:44,219 --> 00:44:49,439
feeling like everything was dead silent

1020
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,300
it was just an eerie quiet silence no

1021
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,440
dogs were borking no noise or anything

1022
00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:54,539
like that

1023
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,760
and people at the store during the time

1024
00:44:54,539 --> 00:44:58,500
when the blackout they opened the doors

1025
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,819
just to see and they could see the

1026
00:44:58,500 --> 00:45:01,679
colors

1027
00:44:59,818 --> 00:45:03,960
they get back inside you shouldn't be

1028
00:45:01,679 --> 00:45:05,000
seeing this go back inside me miss your

1029
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,159
family

1030
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:10,260
I kind of stopped in my tracks and

1031
00:45:08,159 --> 00:45:11,940
I was like well you know thinking in my

1032
00:45:10,260 --> 00:45:14,700
head no [ __ ] this yeah I'm gonna go back

1033
00:45:11,940 --> 00:45:16,079
inside I gonna get abducted and so

1034
00:45:14,699 --> 00:45:17,639
you're standing there where did it leave

1035
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:20,099
when you went back in was it still here

1036
00:45:17,639 --> 00:45:21,900
when you went back in um yep was slowly

1037
00:45:20,099 --> 00:45:24,240
moving back that way just making its way

1038
00:45:21,900 --> 00:45:26,818
towards the South and then I got back in

1039
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:30,179
and then right and we got inside that's

1040
00:45:26,818 --> 00:45:32,219
when um the female house manager said

1041
00:45:30,179 --> 00:45:34,379
hey look and that's when it was right

1042
00:45:32,219 --> 00:45:36,419
outside like this just like this looked

1043
00:45:34,380 --> 00:45:39,420
outside through the window and just this

1044
00:45:36,420 --> 00:45:41,579
flash that's it lights out just like a

1045
00:45:39,420 --> 00:45:44,159
light switch just lights off it gives me

1046
00:45:41,579 --> 00:45:46,079
the chills and I just don't it's just

1047
00:45:44,159 --> 00:45:49,379
stuck in my head

1048
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:52,079
I mean it wasn't a very big ship

1049
00:45:49,380 --> 00:45:55,019
but it was big enough I guess you could

1050
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:59,359
say it was pretty close though

1051
00:45:55,019 --> 00:45:59,358
well it was too close for comfort

1052
00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:12,780
the incident with the bulletproof wolf

1053
00:46:11,219 --> 00:46:15,358
was only the beginning for the ranch

1054
00:46:12,780 --> 00:46:17,700
family during their mind-numbing 20

1055
00:46:15,358 --> 00:46:20,639
months on the property the ranch morphed

1056
00:46:17,699 --> 00:46:23,338
from a seemingly idyllic setting into a

1057
00:46:20,639 --> 00:46:25,078
mental and emotional torture chamber why

1058
00:46:23,338 --> 00:46:27,900
the Rancher wondered did the previous

1059
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:30,599
owner insist on being notified before

1060
00:46:27,900 --> 00:46:32,880
any digging was done on the land soon

1061
00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:35,519
enough he understood at different times

1062
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,559
of the day and night the family felt the

1063
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:40,559
ground shake and heard the sound of

1064
00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:42,960
metal on metal coming from below as if a

1065
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:44,420
steel mill or railroad operated under

1066
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:48,119
their feet

1067
00:46:44,420 --> 00:46:51,059
and there was clear evidence from what

1068
00:46:48,119 --> 00:46:53,519
they felt was that there was some kind

1069
00:46:51,059 --> 00:46:56,519
of a lot of Machinery noises of

1070
00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:58,500
Machinery noises of technology that

1071
00:46:56,519 --> 00:47:01,559
seemed to come from either underground

1072
00:46:58,500 --> 00:47:03,900
or deep in the ridge just to the north

1073
00:47:01,559 --> 00:47:07,259
of here

1074
00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:10,440
um they also found that any time there

1075
00:47:07,260 --> 00:47:12,480
was a disturbance for example sometimes

1076
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:15,720
they Dynamite at tree stumps from the

1077
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:18,318
ground they they noticed that there was

1078
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:21,059
a big increase in their in the activity

1079
00:47:18,318 --> 00:47:22,739
immediately following dynamiting these

1080
00:47:21,059 --> 00:47:23,420
stumps in other words large holes in the

1081
00:47:22,739 --> 00:47:27,299
ground

1082
00:47:23,420 --> 00:47:29,579
they couldn't figure out why

1083
00:47:27,300 --> 00:47:32,039
on some nights large sections of the

1084
00:47:29,579 --> 00:47:34,500
pasture would light up illuminated by an

1085
00:47:32,039 --> 00:47:36,779
unknown source in the sky other times

1086
00:47:34,500 --> 00:47:39,300
the family witnessed beams of light

1087
00:47:36,780 --> 00:47:41,760
shoot out of the ground Vehicles would

1088
00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:43,560
stall batteries would die while crossing

1089
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:46,440
particular points on the property

1090
00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:48,179
equipment would vanish Into Thin Air on

1091
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,159
a few nights family members heard

1092
00:47:48,179 --> 00:47:52,679
mocking voices speaking an unknown

1093
00:47:50,159 --> 00:47:55,858
language seemingly emanating from the

1094
00:47:52,679 --> 00:47:57,899
sky a few feet above their heads so many

1095
00:47:55,858 --> 00:48:00,420
of the events on the ranch were palpable

1096
00:47:57,900 --> 00:48:02,160
but fleeting it meant The credibility of

1097
00:48:00,420 --> 00:48:04,920
the Rancher and other Witnesses would

1098
00:48:02,159 --> 00:48:08,118
eventually be evaluated he was an expert

1099
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:14,039
Marksman tracker Hunter

1100
00:48:08,119 --> 00:48:15,960
Horseman cattle cattle breeder and he

1101
00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:17,460
didn't really touch farming but he had a

1102
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,220
college education and degrees and

1103
00:48:17,460 --> 00:48:22,740
certifications that I believe attested

1104
00:48:20,219 --> 00:48:24,719
to the fact that he had a lot of Highly

1105
00:48:22,739 --> 00:48:26,699
technical train training in animal

1106
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,899
husbandry and in this case so he was in

1107
00:48:26,699 --> 00:48:30,419
other words he was signed scientifically

1108
00:48:27,900 --> 00:48:32,940
astute to some extent Eric Davis is a

1109
00:48:30,420 --> 00:48:34,858
PhD physicist who would later spend four

1110
00:48:32,940 --> 00:48:37,318
years on the ranch as part of a

1111
00:48:34,858 --> 00:48:39,119
wide-ranging investigation looking not

1112
00:48:37,318 --> 00:48:41,460
only at the property and events that

1113
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:43,858
occurred but also conducting extensive

1114
00:48:41,460 --> 00:48:45,960
background checks into the family their

1115
00:48:43,858 --> 00:48:47,159
history their neighbors he is not the

1116
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,019
only witness to I mean this has been

1117
00:48:47,159 --> 00:48:50,460
going on not only the the Indians had

1118
00:48:49,019 --> 00:48:52,619
been seeing it but a lot of people right

1119
00:48:50,460 --> 00:48:54,920
it wasn't just him it was his wife his

1120
00:48:52,619 --> 00:48:58,559
two children his neighbors

1121
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:59,460
the whole unit in Valley has a 50-year

1122
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:02,279
history

1123
00:48:59,460 --> 00:49:04,079
of phenomena that the Mormon community

1124
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,480
and all the other non-mormon members of

1125
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:09,359
the community have been experiencing

1126
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:12,179
since the 1950s this includes County

1127
00:49:09,358 --> 00:49:13,619
board supervisor members judges the

1128
00:49:12,179 --> 00:49:15,059
sheriffs of the various County Sheriff

1129
00:49:13,619 --> 00:49:17,280
departments

1130
00:49:15,059 --> 00:49:18,779
tell me about the Rancher and you came

1131
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,540
up here you got to know him you had

1132
00:49:18,780 --> 00:49:23,880
beers and barbecues and excellent

1133
00:49:21,539 --> 00:49:27,900
excellent at first you thought maybe

1134
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:30,900
this guy is is off his rocker

1135
00:49:27,900 --> 00:49:33,380
well because due to the fact that that

1136
00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:36,539
480 acre parcel of

1137
00:49:33,380 --> 00:49:38,640
paranormal Disneyland down there had so

1138
00:49:36,539 --> 00:49:39,679
much phenomena experienced by him and

1139
00:49:38,639 --> 00:49:42,779
his family

1140
00:49:39,679 --> 00:49:44,879
uh you know different aspects of it from

1141
00:49:42,780 --> 00:49:47,280
the mutilations to the

1142
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,740
opening up in the sky the holes in the

1143
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:52,099
sky to the different craft to the polar

1144
00:49:49,739 --> 00:49:55,199
guys to the different entities

1145
00:49:52,099 --> 00:49:57,900
including UFOs on the ground

1146
00:49:55,199 --> 00:50:01,259
and voices in the air and so on and so

1147
00:49:57,900 --> 00:50:03,119
on and so on I thought this is uh

1148
00:50:01,260 --> 00:50:07,020
there's just too much of an expression

1149
00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:08,940
here I I I I had some doubts there upon

1150
00:50:07,019 --> 00:50:11,400
visiting with him the first time Ryan

1151
00:50:08,940 --> 00:50:13,920
Leighton has chased you into UFO story

1152
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,960
since the 80s he introduced himself to

1153
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:18,300
the Rancher whose real name has been

1154
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,679
reported elsewhere we'll call him Tom

1155
00:50:18,300 --> 00:50:22,619
Gorman what did you come to believe

1156
00:50:19,679 --> 00:50:24,539
about his truthfulness his character I

1157
00:50:22,619 --> 00:50:26,940
believe he is being extremely truthful

1158
00:50:24,539 --> 00:50:30,599
and I think as a character

1159
00:50:26,940 --> 00:50:33,420
is outstanding I could see that he was

1160
00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:35,940
indeed affected emotionally

1161
00:50:33,420 --> 00:50:39,300
as you know he's in a and also angered

1162
00:50:35,940 --> 00:50:41,280
because of it it wasn't a one this

1163
00:50:39,300 --> 00:50:43,079
wasn't a joyful thing for him as you

1164
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,240
know Leighton visited Gorman on the

1165
00:50:43,079 --> 00:50:47,700
ranch four times and was told about many

1166
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:50,338
but not all of the bizarre things that

1167
00:50:47,699 --> 00:50:52,679
were still unfolding one incident was

1168
00:50:50,338 --> 00:50:55,558
distinctly physical it happened in the

1169
00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:58,318
third Homestead someone dug large divots

1170
00:50:55,559 --> 00:51:01,319
into the pasture a photo was included in

1171
00:50:58,318 --> 00:51:04,858
the 1996 newspaper story The Scoop marks

1172
00:51:01,318 --> 00:51:06,838
were just an oddity in the pasture there

1173
00:51:04,858 --> 00:51:08,159
some of them were three to four feet in

1174
00:51:06,838 --> 00:51:10,619
diameter

1175
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:12,000
and they were scooped dozens of them in

1176
00:51:10,619 --> 00:51:14,519
there and uh

1177
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,679
not a natural type of occurrence during

1178
00:51:14,519 --> 00:51:18,960
one of our visits Colin Kelleher showed

1179
00:51:16,679 --> 00:51:20,578
us where it happened each of the Scoops

1180
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,440
would have weighed hundreds of pounds

1181
00:51:20,579 --> 00:51:24,420
meaning some kind of heavy equipment

1182
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,579
would have been needed but how did it

1183
00:51:24,420 --> 00:51:28,318
occur without the Rancher noticing the

1184
00:51:26,579 --> 00:51:28,980
Rancher came out

1185
00:51:28,318 --> 00:51:31,019
um

1186
00:51:28,980 --> 00:51:33,240
one morning and was checking down in

1187
00:51:31,019 --> 00:51:36,420
this area with his cattle he noticed

1188
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:38,818
this scoop Mark here another one just

1189
00:51:36,420 --> 00:51:40,619
down here on a third one further down

1190
00:51:38,818 --> 00:51:43,980
here well they'd have to take down a

1191
00:51:40,619 --> 00:51:45,960
series of gates for one and I don't

1192
00:51:43,980 --> 00:51:48,900
think so and I I don't what does the

1193
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:51,720
weapon be the reasoning for taking such

1194
00:51:48,900 --> 00:51:53,639
a large massive soil sampling out of

1195
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,739
that particular section of the I mean

1196
00:51:53,639 --> 00:51:59,699
what is the big game by scooping out

1197
00:51:55,739 --> 00:52:01,679
dozens of odd scoop marks in the pasture

1198
00:51:59,699 --> 00:52:03,779
that incident came in the middle of a

1199
00:52:01,679 --> 00:52:05,399
wild period for the family from the

1200
00:52:03,780 --> 00:52:07,319
first day they moved on to the ranch

1201
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,358
they felt like they were being watched

1202
00:52:07,318 --> 00:52:11,579
at night they would hear the sounds of

1203
00:52:09,358 --> 00:52:13,799
heavy footsteps outside their windows

1204
00:52:11,579 --> 00:52:16,500
and would see the outlines of black

1205
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:18,960
faceless figures peering in eventually

1206
00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:20,639
the footsteps and the figures entered

1207
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,099
the house there were dozens of

1208
00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:25,858
unexplained events locked doors would

1209
00:52:23,099 --> 00:52:28,559
open and slam shut objects would vanish

1210
00:52:25,858 --> 00:52:30,239
then reappear somewhere else the Utes

1211
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:32,339
might describe tribe all this as the

1212
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:34,739
work of a trickster we would more likely

1213
00:52:32,338 --> 00:52:36,719
call it a poltergeist eventually the

1214
00:52:34,739 --> 00:52:39,058
family would help investigators compile

1215
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:41,519
this list of incidents they remembered

1216
00:52:39,059 --> 00:52:43,680
three young men including the Rancher's

1217
00:52:41,519 --> 00:52:46,259
son spent four hours moving a pile of

1218
00:52:43,679 --> 00:52:48,719
heavy Corral poles to a spot near the

1219
00:52:46,260 --> 00:52:51,000
canal later in the day the entire pile

1220
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:54,118
had been moved back to its original spot

1221
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:56,818
but just an inch off in another instance

1222
00:52:54,119 --> 00:52:59,220
a ton of cord wood stacked on one side

1223
00:52:56,818 --> 00:53:01,259
of a field somehow appeared on the other

1224
00:52:59,219 --> 00:53:04,799
side of the field in the space of about

1225
00:53:01,260 --> 00:53:07,500
30 minutes tools pliers gloves even a

1226
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:11,460
chainsaw banished while being used the

1227
00:53:07,500 --> 00:53:13,920
chainsaw reappeared a hundred yards away

1228
00:53:11,460 --> 00:53:15,900
a post hole digger vanished from a field

1229
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:18,240
during the Rancher's brief lunch break

1230
00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:20,940
after he bought a new Digger the next

1231
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:23,879
day the first one reappeared delicately

1232
00:53:20,940 --> 00:53:26,159
balanced up in a tree the Rancher placed

1233
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:28,920
a new flea collar on his dog's neck it

1234
00:53:26,159 --> 00:53:32,159
disappeared within a day 24 hours later

1235
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:34,019
it was back on the dog kitchen utensils

1236
00:53:32,159 --> 00:53:36,058
would go missing while the Rancher's

1237
00:53:34,019 --> 00:53:38,039
wife was cooking meals and would later

1238
00:53:36,059 --> 00:53:40,260
turn up in the fridge or freezer or

1239
00:53:38,039 --> 00:53:42,000
microwave the wife would lock the

1240
00:53:40,260 --> 00:53:44,339
bathroom door when she took a shower

1241
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,500
when she got out of the shower her towel

1242
00:53:44,338 --> 00:53:48,719
and hair brush were gone though the door

1243
00:53:46,500 --> 00:53:50,818
was still locked weeks worth of

1244
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:53,219
groceries would be unpacked and put away

1245
00:53:50,818 --> 00:53:55,558
in cupboards minutes later the groceries

1246
00:53:53,219 --> 00:53:57,480
were back in the shopping bags Ryan

1247
00:53:55,559 --> 00:53:58,859
Layton was present on the ranch while

1248
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,440
some of the incidents were still

1249
00:53:58,858 --> 00:54:03,179
happening did Terry ever describe to you

1250
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,980
seeing the beings and things of that

1251
00:54:03,179 --> 00:54:06,419
sort or any of the the Poltergeist

1252
00:54:04,980 --> 00:54:08,460
trickery kind of things that would

1253
00:54:06,420 --> 00:54:10,200
happen yes he did describe some of the

1254
00:54:08,460 --> 00:54:13,199
trickery too what did he tell you about

1255
00:54:10,199 --> 00:54:15,659
you know oh the particularly his uh

1256
00:54:13,199 --> 00:54:17,759
fence post is a

1257
00:54:15,659 --> 00:54:20,399
post hole digger post hole digger yes

1258
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:23,579
uh-huh where he looked uh long and far

1259
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:25,559
became extremely frustrated looked for

1260
00:54:23,579 --> 00:54:28,619
it and there it was uh approximately 30

1261
00:54:25,559 --> 00:54:30,780
40 feet up a tree a couple of days later

1262
00:54:28,619 --> 00:54:32,880
things in the house things in the house

1263
00:54:30,780 --> 00:54:34,920
would move around also I do remember the

1264
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,099
story about which stands out in my mind

1265
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:40,260
when you mention the Poltergeist

1266
00:54:37,099 --> 00:54:41,818
activity of his son

1267
00:54:40,260 --> 00:54:45,540
or I mean I should say the high

1268
00:54:41,818 --> 00:54:48,358
strangeness of these type of objects uh

1269
00:54:45,539 --> 00:54:51,058
his son had cut with some friends some

1270
00:54:48,358 --> 00:54:52,980
core a quart or two of wood and then

1271
00:54:51,059 --> 00:54:56,640
placed at some distance maybe 100 yards

1272
00:54:52,980 --> 00:54:58,380
away from the location and it had been

1273
00:54:56,639 --> 00:55:00,118
moved he came in to get a drink of water

1274
00:54:58,380 --> 00:55:01,858
and it was moved

1275
00:55:00,119 --> 00:55:04,920
the whole Corner yeah the whole Court of

1276
00:55:01,858 --> 00:55:07,259
wood within you know just a few moments

1277
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,760
uh I believe it was about a about a

1278
00:55:07,260 --> 00:55:10,380
hundred yard distance or something to

1279
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,599
that nature

1280
00:55:10,380 --> 00:55:15,480
Junior Hicks the science teacher who

1281
00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:17,760
investigated UFO cases said these

1282
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:20,159
trickster incidents were common among

1283
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:22,500
other Witnesses who had encountered UFOs

1284
00:55:20,159 --> 00:55:24,179
but it often took a long time for them

1285
00:55:22,500 --> 00:55:26,280
to open up about their unusual

1286
00:55:24,179 --> 00:55:28,858
experiences

1287
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:31,220
the family needed help and help was on

1288
00:55:28,858 --> 00:55:31,219
its way

1289
00:55:35,699 --> 00:55:40,739
Bob biglow is one of the most enigmatic

1290
00:55:38,519 --> 00:55:44,460
individuals that you ever hear about

1291
00:55:40,739 --> 00:55:46,858
the guy's got two private orbiting space

1292
00:55:44,460 --> 00:55:50,519
stations for study he's an individual

1293
00:55:46,858 --> 00:55:52,619
connected through government contracts

1294
00:55:50,519 --> 00:55:55,318
Skinwalker Ranch he's allowed you to be

1295
00:55:52,619 --> 00:55:57,000
there a number of times he's really let

1296
00:55:55,318 --> 00:55:58,920
you in

1297
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,800
my bagel is probably the most

1298
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:04,680
misunderstood person in the entire field

1299
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:06,539
of ufology he's not a ufologist he's a

1300
00:56:04,679 --> 00:56:08,940
wealthy businessman who happens to have

1301
00:56:06,539 --> 00:56:11,639
an interest in the topic he has spent

1302
00:56:08,940 --> 00:56:13,980
more money trying to pursue UFO truth

1303
00:56:11,639 --> 00:56:15,118
than any person in the history of the

1304
00:56:13,980 --> 00:56:18,059
world

1305
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:20,519
what is Bigelow's end game what is his

1306
00:56:18,059 --> 00:56:21,900
curiosity what is his interest why is he

1307
00:56:20,519 --> 00:56:24,179
doing this

1308
00:56:21,900 --> 00:56:26,460
the interest is personal it comes from

1309
00:56:24,179 --> 00:56:28,199
family experiences it's what got him

1310
00:56:26,460 --> 00:56:31,380
hungry about the topic to begin with

1311
00:56:28,199 --> 00:56:33,719
people have this craziest ideas about

1312
00:56:31,380 --> 00:56:37,260
Bob Bigelow I've seen the descriptions

1313
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:40,379
of him he's shadowy he's a drug business

1314
00:56:37,260 --> 00:56:43,619
he's in uh he's in the tea business he's

1315
00:56:40,380 --> 00:56:44,900
a gun Runner he's a casino owner crazy

1316
00:56:43,619 --> 00:56:48,000
stuff

1317
00:56:44,900 --> 00:56:50,280
uh he's only interested in this so he

1318
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:53,280
can capture the technology and build his

1319
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:56,819
own spacecraft and and take the elite

1320
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:58,619
off this planet all he's done is give

1321
00:56:56,818 --> 00:57:00,300
his resources to trying to find out

1322
00:56:58,619 --> 00:57:02,160
what's going on you know for example he

1323
00:57:00,300 --> 00:57:04,318
gave a million dollars to the UFO

1324
00:57:02,159 --> 00:57:05,279
organizations told him here's a million

1325
00:57:04,318 --> 00:57:06,838
dollars

1326
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,339
you don't have any resources you're

1327
00:57:06,838 --> 00:57:10,440
always bitching about not having any

1328
00:57:08,338 --> 00:57:12,719
money here's a million bucks you just

1329
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,400
got to figure out a way to get along and

1330
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,078
divvy it up and make sure it goes to

1331
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,599
actual research of course they [ __ ] it

1332
00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:19,980
up they [ __ ] it up because they

1333
00:57:18,599 --> 00:57:22,019
couldn't get along

1334
00:57:19,980 --> 00:57:24,000
he said I want to establish a training

1335
00:57:22,019 --> 00:57:26,280
program where we have a strike force

1336
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:28,739
kind of a rapid response team so when

1337
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:31,260
you've got a UFO flap you've got a big

1338
00:57:28,739 --> 00:57:32,939
case you can you've got the money to

1339
00:57:31,260 --> 00:57:34,800
jump on a plane send to people there

1340
00:57:32,940 --> 00:57:37,318
have boots on the ground investigate it

1341
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:39,780
and they and of course he was pilloried

1342
00:57:37,318 --> 00:57:41,759
for it he created Knits National

1343
00:57:39,780 --> 00:57:46,440
Institute for Discovery Science he was

1344
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:48,300
so disgusted by mufon by the UFO

1345
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,220
organizations and their lack of progress

1346
00:57:48,300 --> 00:57:52,680
he created his own UF organization

1347
00:57:50,219 --> 00:57:57,598
there's never been a gathering of great

1348
00:57:52,679 --> 00:57:59,818
minds as great as these in one pursuit

1349
00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:03,300
of UFO truth in a history of the world

1350
00:57:59,818 --> 00:58:05,880
this board that he put together the the

1351
00:58:03,300 --> 00:58:08,039
makeup of this board some of them their

1352
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:11,400
names still are not public they don't

1353
00:58:08,039 --> 00:58:13,318
want it to hurt their careers but man

1354
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:15,358
that's an amazing group of people and

1355
00:58:13,318 --> 00:58:17,338
I've been there and they don't come in

1356
00:58:15,358 --> 00:58:20,159
with an agenda they weren't there to

1357
00:58:17,338 --> 00:58:23,039
create their own Flying Saucer Fleet the

1358
00:58:20,159 --> 00:58:25,920
idea was they devote their time their

1359
00:58:23,039 --> 00:58:27,599
own time to pursuing UFO truth because

1360
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:30,358
they thought there's something important

1361
00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:31,280
going on here it's worth spending our

1362
00:58:30,358 --> 00:58:35,759
time

1363
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:38,700
to pursue this and uh they gave a lot

1364
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:41,160
volunteered a lot and no one gave more

1365
00:58:38,699 --> 00:58:43,139
than Bigelow and no one has been beaten

1366
00:58:41,159 --> 00:58:44,639
up more than Bigelow because of it it's

1367
00:58:43,139 --> 00:58:46,739
ridiculous

1368
00:58:44,639 --> 00:58:49,980
is there something that is shaken

1369
00:58:46,739 --> 00:58:51,659
Bigelow or shaken you about the ranch

1370
00:58:49,980 --> 00:58:53,940
Bob's interest in the ranch was

1371
00:58:51,659 --> 00:58:55,739
primarily an interest in UFOs he he

1372
00:58:53,940 --> 00:58:57,298
bought the place because people had been

1373
00:58:55,739 --> 00:58:59,279
seeing UFOs

1374
00:58:57,298 --> 00:59:01,440
uh you know the flying saucers

1375
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:04,559
traditional UFO stuff that was his

1376
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:06,420
interest but of course as he learned as

1377
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:08,579
he and his team learned there's a lot

1378
00:59:06,420 --> 00:59:11,280
more to it than that they had no idea

1379
00:59:08,579 --> 00:59:12,539
what they were getting I think when they

1380
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,280
when they bought the place they heard

1381
00:59:12,539 --> 00:59:16,500
bits and pieces here and there they

1382
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,420
interviewed the family and heard these

1383
00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:20,760
stories but I don't think they they

1384
00:59:18,420 --> 00:59:22,680
could possibly imagine how far it would

1385
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:25,260
go have there been experiences there

1386
00:59:22,679 --> 00:59:28,199
that have shaken the people involved

1387
00:59:25,260 --> 00:59:31,260
absolutely and I think Bob Bigelow would

1388
00:59:28,199 --> 00:59:33,480
be included in that um I I can't tell

1389
00:59:31,260 --> 00:59:34,980
you I I can't tell you what it is but I

1390
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:38,219
can tell you he's had

1391
00:59:34,980 --> 00:59:40,559
he's had uh some dramatic uh episodes

1392
00:59:38,219 --> 00:59:43,798
that have convinced him that something

1393
00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:46,680
is real you know there and his team have

1394
00:59:43,798 --> 00:59:48,119
had those episodes I mean these are PhD

1395
00:59:46,679 --> 00:59:51,298
level guys

1396
00:59:48,119 --> 00:59:53,460
who have worked for every three-letter

1397
00:59:51,298 --> 00:59:54,960
agency you can imagine who are there

1398
00:59:53,460 --> 00:59:56,699
because they want to know what's going

1399
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:59,400
on they've worked for the Pentagon and

1400
00:59:56,699 --> 01:00:03,118
CIA and other agencies and in scientific

1401
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:05,099
think tanks bright PhD level people who

1402
01:00:03,119 --> 01:00:06,838
are there investigating this mystery and

1403
01:00:05,099 --> 01:00:09,180
it has scared the [ __ ] out of them I

1404
01:00:06,838 --> 01:00:11,818
mean it's confronted them directly it's

1405
01:00:09,179 --> 01:00:15,058
one thing to be reading about UFOs or

1406
01:00:11,818 --> 01:00:17,219
other realities or interdimensionals in

1407
01:00:15,059 --> 01:00:19,559
a book it's another thing to be staring

1408
01:00:17,219 --> 01:00:21,058
at it right in the face and for it to be

1409
01:00:19,559 --> 01:00:23,099
communicating with you and telling you

1410
01:00:21,059 --> 01:00:25,579
get out you're not welcome and that's

1411
01:00:23,099 --> 01:00:25,579
happened there

1412
01:00:28,338 --> 01:00:34,940
in 1978 a local newspaper reported High

1413
01:00:32,099 --> 01:00:38,099
activity in the Uinta basin silver

1414
01:00:34,940 --> 01:00:41,099
dome-shaped objects were seen flying

1415
01:00:38,099 --> 01:00:43,740
saucers some witnesses observing the

1416
01:00:41,099 --> 01:00:45,318
display from close proximity from

1417
01:00:43,739 --> 01:00:48,598
underneath the craft

1418
01:00:45,318 --> 01:00:52,400
UFOs were buzzing the locals with Jagged

1419
01:00:48,599 --> 01:00:52,400
green lights like fire

1420
01:00:53,139 --> 01:00:56,219
[Music]

1421
01:00:56,599 --> 01:01:02,818
nothing really changes it's constant the

1422
01:01:00,179 --> 01:01:04,858
phenomenon is engaging people it's a

1423
01:01:02,818 --> 01:01:06,150
pattern of Close Encounters

1424
01:01:04,858 --> 01:01:09,078
it's commonplace

1425
01:01:06,150 --> 01:01:12,240
[Music]

1426
01:01:09,079 --> 01:01:14,700
people hunt the cause scientists

1427
01:01:12,239 --> 01:01:18,049
investigate the Carnage the nids team

1428
01:01:14,699 --> 01:01:25,699
tried to quantify the performances

1429
01:01:18,050 --> 01:01:28,200
[Music]

1430
01:01:25,699 --> 01:01:30,598
they created control studies for plant

1431
01:01:28,199 --> 01:01:34,399
growth they monitored the environment

1432
01:01:30,599 --> 01:01:38,579
they calculated the variables

1433
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:40,858
they analyzed every event but mostly

1434
01:01:38,579 --> 01:01:43,798
they waited for the phenomenon to

1435
01:01:40,858 --> 01:01:46,980
express itself and the phenomenon seemed

1436
01:01:43,798 --> 01:01:49,980
to toy with them to play games with them

1437
01:01:46,980 --> 01:01:53,960
silence followed by dramatic displays of

1438
01:01:49,980 --> 01:01:53,960
control it did what it wanted

1439
01:01:54,358 --> 01:01:57,739
it does what it wants

1440
01:01:58,019 --> 01:02:00,798
to anybody

1441
01:02:04,980 --> 01:02:10,440
what's your name oh my name is Janice

1442
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:13,559
and where do you live in relation to

1443
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:16,559
Skinwalker Ranch I just live west of

1444
01:02:13,559 --> 01:02:19,500
Skinwalker Ranch what was that exact

1445
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:22,079
moment when you transitioned from being

1446
01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:24,420
skeptical a non-believer to being a

1447
01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:26,579
Believer yeah describe the incident so

1448
01:02:24,420 --> 01:02:28,920
the four heifers were in the North Field

1449
01:02:26,579 --> 01:02:30,660
and I could hear them Valerie

1450
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:33,000
but we couldn't figure out where they

1451
01:02:30,659 --> 01:02:35,039
were my bright ideas well let's get the

1452
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,838
spotlight at night time get let's get

1453
01:02:35,039 --> 01:02:39,119
that Spotlight and we'll go through the

1454
01:02:36,838 --> 01:02:41,940
tree line like this

1455
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:43,980
you have to see eyes then that'll give

1456
01:02:41,940 --> 01:02:47,519
us a general idea where they're at at

1457
01:02:43,980 --> 01:02:49,858
night so we can set up panels and run

1458
01:02:47,519 --> 01:02:51,838
them back over to the house

1459
01:02:49,858 --> 01:02:53,759
so we're going the rebellions we're

1460
01:02:51,838 --> 01:02:55,139
going but I couldn't see nothing so I

1461
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,660
turned it on I said Okay let's listen

1462
01:02:55,139 --> 01:02:59,759
and when I went let's listen that's when

1463
01:02:57,659 --> 01:03:02,818
that light came it came clear from the

1464
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:05,280
sky I mean it hit like this

1465
01:03:02,818 --> 01:03:07,798
and it lit up the whole truck and it

1466
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:11,700
physically hit you but like yeah that

1467
01:03:07,798 --> 01:03:15,119
literally came down in and lit up

1468
01:03:11,699 --> 01:03:17,039
everything I was like wait a minute

1469
01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:20,099
and I turned back I said that's not

1470
01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:23,039
possible that is not possible

1471
01:03:20,099 --> 01:03:25,798
and that's when I started like

1472
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:28,259
something's here and it's real

1473
01:03:25,798 --> 01:03:30,420
and I just got an eye-opener because I

1474
01:03:28,260 --> 01:03:32,339
was a non-believer before that so that

1475
01:03:30,420 --> 01:03:35,480
was the experience that changed it for

1476
01:03:32,338 --> 01:03:35,480
you where you realized

1477
01:03:40,380 --> 01:03:45,858
yes

1478
01:03:42,679 --> 01:03:45,858
I'm sorry

1479
01:03:54,480 --> 01:04:01,579
I just couldn't grow up for a minute

1480
01:03:57,838 --> 01:04:01,578
give me I think

1481
01:04:02,539 --> 01:04:07,380
because my neighbor

1482
01:04:05,338 --> 01:04:09,858
um Charlie Wynn

1483
01:04:07,380 --> 01:04:09,858
foreign

1484
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:19,559
big Mothership or whatever you want to

1485
01:04:15,719 --> 01:04:22,199
call it or I don't know

1486
01:04:19,559 --> 01:04:25,859
he'd stop by every day on his way home

1487
01:04:22,199 --> 01:04:28,519
from work his face was so

1488
01:04:25,858 --> 01:04:28,519
red

1489
01:04:28,980 --> 01:04:34,260
I couldn't believe it

1490
01:04:31,318 --> 01:04:36,119
when I looked up he said that light hit

1491
01:04:34,260 --> 01:04:38,520
me he said it scared the [ __ ] out of me

1492
01:04:36,119 --> 01:04:42,539
so bad he said I was crawling in the the

1493
01:04:38,519 --> 01:04:46,679
ditch to get that water too

1494
01:04:42,539 --> 01:04:48,599
cool him off he got cancer and I killed

1495
01:04:46,679 --> 01:04:50,940
him and and I always think I wonder if

1496
01:04:48,599 --> 01:04:52,740
it was from that because I mean you

1497
01:04:50,940 --> 01:04:55,139
could

1498
01:04:52,739 --> 01:04:58,618
it was like you know how somebody has

1499
01:04:55,139 --> 01:05:02,159
like a real bad burn and it's just so

1500
01:04:58,619 --> 01:05:04,079
red and deep

1501
01:05:02,159 --> 01:05:07,618
this is something that is really

1502
01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:10,380
important for this whole story this

1503
01:05:07,619 --> 01:05:12,240
phenomenon so can you just tell me what

1504
01:05:10,380 --> 01:05:15,599
that wave of emotion was

1505
01:05:12,239 --> 01:05:17,879
my son was diagnosed just last year and

1506
01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:20,400
it's hard to deal with it because that's

1507
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:23,579
your baby you know

1508
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:26,400
when it first started out it was like I

1509
01:05:23,579 --> 01:05:28,920
was hitting brickles

1510
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:32,519
and I'm like Lord you know I'm not the

1511
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:34,500
perfect person but

1512
01:05:32,519 --> 01:05:37,920
why

1513
01:05:34,500 --> 01:05:39,719
do you fear that the phenomenon has

1514
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:43,079
something to do with these illnesses

1515
01:05:39,719 --> 01:05:45,838
like with your son and your friends it

1516
01:05:43,079 --> 01:05:49,380
kind of makes me believe because like I

1517
01:05:45,838 --> 01:05:52,199
said my son was strong as a bull so

1518
01:05:49,380 --> 01:05:54,200
there is a element of fear for the ones

1519
01:05:52,199 --> 01:05:57,659
you love yeah that there is a

1520
01:05:54,199 --> 01:06:00,539
malevolence to it you know and evil that

1521
01:05:57,659 --> 01:06:02,279
seems to be attacking the health of

1522
01:06:00,539 --> 01:06:04,139
those you love yeah

1523
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:07,440
that that is something you believe to be

1524
01:06:04,139 --> 01:06:09,779
true yes so all the people

1525
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:12,780
have been exposed to some kind of yeah

1526
01:06:09,780 --> 01:06:14,940
experience what question is it that you

1527
01:06:12,780 --> 01:06:18,000
would like to answer what answer are you

1528
01:06:14,940 --> 01:06:22,099
looking to find is it really real or is

1529
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:22,099
it something that the government's doing

1530
01:06:22,858 --> 01:06:27,420
is it really

1531
01:06:25,019 --> 01:06:29,280
like an entity or

1532
01:06:27,420 --> 01:06:33,599
beans or what

1533
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:36,740
is it real or is it government made up

1534
01:06:33,599 --> 01:06:36,740
what do you think

1535
01:06:37,500 --> 01:06:48,489
I think that's real

1536
01:06:38,949 --> 01:06:48,489
[Music]

1537
01:06:50,358 --> 01:06:55,980
a beast prowls the darkness outside of

1538
01:06:53,460 --> 01:06:58,260
Skinwalker Ranch it's Lucy the Wonder

1539
01:06:55,980 --> 01:07:00,900
Dog she made the long drive with us to

1540
01:06:58,260 --> 01:07:03,420
the Uinta Basin in part because Lucy can

1541
01:07:00,900 --> 01:07:05,579
see and hear things that we can't the

1542
01:07:03,420 --> 01:07:07,858
same reasons the nids team relied on

1543
01:07:05,579 --> 01:07:10,619
dogs during the long study of the ranch

1544
01:07:07,858 --> 01:07:13,259
dogs were considered to be friends as

1545
01:07:10,619 --> 01:07:16,019
well as biosensors able to detect

1546
01:07:13,260 --> 01:07:18,660
unusual activity beyond the range of

1547
01:07:16,019 --> 01:07:20,759
human senses soon after Robert Bigelow

1548
01:07:18,659 --> 01:07:22,920
purchased the property the nids team

1549
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:25,619
built observation towers in three

1550
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:28,440
pastures with sturdy metal fences around

1551
01:07:25,619 --> 01:07:30,480
each tower on many nights dogs were

1552
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:33,960
stationed inside the fences the

1553
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:36,000
construction of those dog runs on the on

1554
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:38,940
the

1555
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:41,219
the viewing platforms also was kind of

1556
01:07:38,940 --> 01:07:44,579
like a communication thing the idea was

1557
01:07:41,219 --> 01:07:46,259
to put dogs at the dog runs who who are

1558
01:07:44,579 --> 01:07:48,920
extremely good biosensors they would

1559
01:07:46,260 --> 01:07:51,240
alert the humans but at the same time

1560
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:52,980
during the construction of these dog

1561
01:07:51,239 --> 01:07:55,739
runs there was a whole bunch of

1562
01:07:52,980 --> 01:07:57,838
anomalies happened at these dog runs an

1563
01:07:55,739 --> 01:08:00,659
unknown trickster kept opening the gates

1564
01:07:57,838 --> 01:08:03,058
and letting the dogs loose perplexed nid

1565
01:08:00,659 --> 01:08:05,279
secured the gates with thick wire the

1566
01:08:03,059 --> 01:08:08,519
wire vanished then they installed strong

1567
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:09,980
padlocks the padlocks disappeared Gates

1568
01:08:08,519 --> 01:08:13,559
were left open

1569
01:08:09,980 --> 01:08:15,659
the the locks were gone there was there

1570
01:08:13,559 --> 01:08:17,640
was a whole there was like eight I think

1571
01:08:15,659 --> 01:08:19,798
seven or eight separate incidents that

1572
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:21,960
happened at Several of these dog runs

1573
01:08:19,798 --> 01:08:23,880
just after construction and if you

1574
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,679
wanted to read a message into that you

1575
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:28,259
could say the same sort of thing that

1576
01:08:25,679 --> 01:08:29,699
you know these these measures are

1577
01:08:28,259 --> 01:08:32,579
essentially useless they can be

1578
01:08:29,698 --> 01:08:34,619
interfered with they can be compromised

1579
01:08:32,579 --> 01:08:36,359
they can be screwed with and there's

1580
01:08:34,619 --> 01:08:38,039
nothing you can do about it killer her

1581
01:08:36,359 --> 01:08:40,500
and the nid's team were initially

1582
01:08:38,039 --> 01:08:43,019
optimistic after Robert Bigelow bought

1583
01:08:40,500 --> 01:08:44,939
the so-called UFO Ranch the team brought

1584
01:08:43,020 --> 01:08:47,460
in its own double-wide Command Center

1585
01:08:44,939 --> 01:08:49,919
installed surveillance cameras and other

1586
01:08:47,460 --> 01:08:52,739
sensors and tried to find prosaic

1587
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:54,960
explanations for the wild stories they

1588
01:08:52,738 --> 01:08:57,059
surveyed the Basin for geomagnetic

1589
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:59,520
anomalies searched the property for

1590
01:08:57,060 --> 01:09:01,560
hallucinogenic plants interviewed the

1591
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:03,719
family their neighbors and a wide circle

1592
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:05,460
of other eyewitnesses there's a lot of

1593
01:09:03,719 --> 01:09:07,679
people interested in this stuff and you

1594
01:09:05,460 --> 01:09:09,719
get a lot of calls the scientists on the

1595
01:09:07,679 --> 01:09:12,359
team were not there to confirm local

1596
01:09:09,719 --> 01:09:14,640
myths nids was designed to be a high

1597
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:16,620
risk High payoff Institute

1598
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:19,619
a lot of high risk for the topic we were

1599
01:09:16,619 --> 01:09:21,778
after that ranch I think was the epitome

1600
01:09:19,619 --> 01:09:23,818
of what we were after like I said it was

1601
01:09:21,779 --> 01:09:25,500
a living Laboratory

1602
01:09:23,819 --> 01:09:28,920
that we could set up and control the

1603
01:09:25,500 --> 01:09:30,600
conditions we can rigorously monitor the

1604
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,880
environment we can rigorously attempt to

1605
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:34,259
monitor the phenomena as it moved within

1606
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,960
that environment out there at that ranch

1607
01:09:34,259 --> 01:09:39,000
physicist Dr Eric Davis who has worked

1608
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:42,060
for military think tanks and prominent

1609
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:44,698
Labs was skeptical about UFO tales and

1610
01:09:42,060 --> 01:09:46,920
spooky stories until he made his first

1611
01:09:44,698 --> 01:09:49,439
visit to the ranch that's when he and

1612
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:51,600
others witnessed an orange globe that

1613
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:53,159
turned blue then landed up and it'd be a

1614
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,260
clear orange ball and then a Mist would

1615
01:09:53,159 --> 01:09:56,939
appear and be blue again and so forth

1616
01:09:55,260 --> 01:09:59,280
and it alternate alternated this way

1617
01:09:56,939 --> 01:10:01,259
until finally descended below the

1618
01:09:59,279 --> 01:10:02,939
background mountains and it descended in

1619
01:10:01,260 --> 01:10:04,500
now what I mean below I mean the

1620
01:10:02,939 --> 01:10:06,599
mountaintops it didn't descend behind

1621
01:10:04,500 --> 01:10:08,219
the mountains it descended in front of

1622
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:10,500
the mountains that sighting occurred

1623
01:10:08,219 --> 01:10:12,659
before nids installed its camera system

1624
01:10:10,500 --> 01:10:14,698
but even with cameras positioned around

1625
01:10:12,659 --> 01:10:17,639
the property the phenomena proved

1626
01:10:14,698 --> 01:10:20,539
elusive we had cameras that were

1627
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:22,860
recording data on a continuous basis

1628
01:10:20,539 --> 01:10:24,719
frequently things would happen just off

1629
01:10:22,859 --> 01:10:28,139
the camera like it knew where you're

1630
01:10:24,719 --> 01:10:30,060
looking says okay we'll do this where

1631
01:10:28,140 --> 01:10:32,760
you're not looking the cameras did catch

1632
01:10:30,060 --> 01:10:34,980
perplexing images over the years darting

1633
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:37,440
orbs that seemed under intelligent

1634
01:10:34,979 --> 01:10:39,599
control a fan-shaped array of Lights

1635
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:41,819
recorded more than once near the bottom

1636
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:44,340
of the ridge something resembling an

1637
01:10:41,819 --> 01:10:47,219
aircraft contrail that emanated from the

1638
01:10:44,340 --> 01:10:49,679
ground and this the ghostly silhouettes

1639
01:10:47,219 --> 01:10:52,319
of structures that reminded the team of

1640
01:10:49,679 --> 01:10:55,560
New York's Twin Towers the images are

1641
01:10:52,319 --> 01:10:58,319
evidence but of what by 1998 the mids

1642
01:10:55,560 --> 01:11:01,380
team already had 78 incidents from the

1643
01:10:58,319 --> 01:11:03,960
vicinity of the ranch including 11 nuts

1644
01:11:01,380 --> 01:11:05,819
and bolts structured craft reports as

1645
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:08,340
well as a few dozen orbs of different

1646
01:11:05,819 --> 01:11:10,738
colors and another that sliced the tops

1647
01:11:08,340 --> 01:11:13,020
off several trees in the third Homestead

1648
01:11:10,738 --> 01:11:15,119
the ranchers showed the damage to Ryan

1649
01:11:13,020 --> 01:11:17,340
Leighton and joked it must have been a

1650
01:11:15,119 --> 01:11:19,679
case of pilot era the top part of the

1651
01:11:17,340 --> 01:11:22,440
trees were kind of almost squared out

1652
01:11:19,679 --> 01:11:24,420
almost like in a square the very and

1653
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:26,639
those are probably

1654
01:11:24,420 --> 01:11:29,340
well maybe 80 to 100 feet tall

1655
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:34,140
cottonwood trees and the the branches

1656
01:11:29,340 --> 01:11:36,119
were probably say 40 to 50 60 feet

1657
01:11:34,140 --> 01:11:38,039
some of the branches very lengthy and

1658
01:11:36,119 --> 01:11:40,019
they're they were on the ground and they

1659
01:11:38,039 --> 01:11:41,880
broke it off that same section of the

1660
01:11:40,020 --> 01:11:44,159
property is where the ranchers saw his

1661
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:46,619
first UFO he initially thought it might

1662
01:11:44,158 --> 01:11:49,319
be a wayward Winnebago that somehow got

1663
01:11:46,619 --> 01:11:51,238
onto his property it was shaped like a

1664
01:11:49,319 --> 01:11:53,939
refrigerator like box shaped with a

1665
01:11:51,238 --> 01:11:55,439
light on one one end of it when he first

1666
01:11:53,939 --> 01:11:57,619
saw it in the distance he was with his

1667
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:59,460
nephew and

1668
01:11:57,619 --> 01:12:01,979
it was

1669
01:11:59,460 --> 01:12:03,359
it was dark but he saw the light and he

1670
01:12:01,979 --> 01:12:04,859
presumed that there were hunters or

1671
01:12:03,359 --> 01:12:07,799
there were somebody trespassing on his

1672
01:12:04,859 --> 01:12:09,539
property so he and his uh and his nephew

1673
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:12,539
started walking towards it

1674
01:12:09,539 --> 01:12:15,600
it started moving slowly away from where

1675
01:12:12,539 --> 01:12:18,658
they were walking and this all happened

1676
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:20,940
further further uh east of here but the

1677
01:12:18,658 --> 01:12:22,439
thing started clearing a fence and

1678
01:12:20,939 --> 01:12:24,960
that's when they they began to think

1679
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:26,579
something unusual was happening and they

1680
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:29,460
couldn't actually see the shape of it

1681
01:12:26,579 --> 01:12:32,460
until they kept on pursuing it and then

1682
01:12:29,460 --> 01:12:34,140
it went over a tree line so an RV that

1683
01:12:32,460 --> 01:12:35,698
goes over a tree yeah it actually went

1684
01:12:34,140 --> 01:12:37,739
over the tree line and as it was

1685
01:12:35,698 --> 01:12:40,079
silhouetted against the sky they saw the

1686
01:12:37,738 --> 01:12:42,059
shape of it it was like a like a

1687
01:12:40,079 --> 01:12:44,939
refrigerator flying refrigerator

1688
01:12:42,060 --> 01:12:47,039
and it was completely silent Ground Zero

1689
01:12:44,939 --> 01:12:49,799
for odd sightings was always the middle

1690
01:12:47,039 --> 01:12:51,300
Homestead at nights lights and orbs

1691
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:53,699
could be seen floating through the

1692
01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:55,679
creaky old buildings it's also where the

1693
01:12:53,698 --> 01:12:58,559
Rancher had multiple sightings of the

1694
01:12:55,679 --> 01:13:01,619
most puzzling object and orange glowing

1695
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:04,199
Hole in the Sky Gorman told Kelleher and

1696
01:13:01,619 --> 01:13:06,479
others the orange ball seemed to be a

1697
01:13:04,198 --> 01:13:09,000
portal and on the other side was a quote

1698
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:12,059
different sky on at least one occasion

1699
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:14,760
the Rancher saw a smaller object fly out

1700
01:13:12,060 --> 01:13:17,580
of the orange orb into the sky over his

1701
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:19,679
property the Exotic possibility that the

1702
01:13:17,579 --> 01:13:22,319
ranch might be a portal to another world

1703
01:13:19,679 --> 01:13:25,260
has occurred many times to the nid's

1704
01:13:22,319 --> 01:13:27,899
team but how to prove it in August 1996

1705
01:13:25,260 --> 01:13:30,480
the portal Theory erupted again in a

1706
01:13:27,899 --> 01:13:32,279
stark demonstration the Rancher and an

1707
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:34,559
investigator were conducting a night

1708
01:13:32,279 --> 01:13:36,719
surveillance Atop The Ridges they

1709
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:39,179
spotted a hovering ball of light in the

1710
01:13:36,719 --> 01:13:40,939
middle Homestead an object that was seen

1711
01:13:39,179 --> 01:13:44,940
four feet off the ground

1712
01:13:40,939 --> 01:13:47,879
that it looked like a a dull yellow

1713
01:13:44,939 --> 01:13:49,799
light I mean it was innocuous hovering

1714
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,779
over the road it just appeared out of

1715
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:53,940
nowhere and then it begins to expand and

1716
01:13:51,779 --> 01:13:56,460
grow and then it opens up into about

1717
01:13:53,939 --> 01:13:58,039
approximately three foot wide openings

1718
01:13:56,460 --> 01:14:01,079
that turned on the night vision

1719
01:13:58,039 --> 01:14:03,060
equipment they had and lo and behold

1720
01:14:01,079 --> 01:14:04,859
everything from a dull yellow light

1721
01:14:03,060 --> 01:14:06,300
became like a three-dimensional it

1722
01:14:04,859 --> 01:14:09,119
looked like a three-dimensional tunnel

1723
01:14:06,300 --> 01:14:10,980
that was just you know hovering over the

1724
01:14:09,119 --> 01:14:13,380
ground where there's a light shining

1725
01:14:10,979 --> 01:14:15,238
from coming out from within this opening

1726
01:14:13,380 --> 01:14:16,739
on the other side of the opening this is

1727
01:14:15,238 --> 01:14:18,119
the natural background of the ranch they

1728
01:14:16,738 --> 01:14:20,879
see the road they see the grass from the

1729
01:14:18,119 --> 01:14:22,859
pasture and so forth slowly this

1730
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:25,159
incident unfolded where they saw this

1731
01:14:22,859 --> 01:14:28,859
what looked like a humanoid creature

1732
01:14:25,158 --> 01:14:31,920
crawling literally elbowing his or her

1733
01:14:28,859 --> 01:14:33,899
way through this this tunnel hovering

1734
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:36,658
four feet above the ground and out of

1735
01:14:33,899 --> 01:14:38,339
this opening crawls a very large what I

1736
01:14:36,658 --> 01:14:41,039
understood to be an eight foot tall

1737
01:14:38,340 --> 01:14:43,800
black creature with the head and no neck

1738
01:14:41,039 --> 01:14:45,479
and a torso arms and legs no details or

1739
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:47,400
features noted on it it was a second

1740
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:49,799
witness standing right beside the other

1741
01:14:47,399 --> 01:14:52,979
guy with the the infrared technology all

1742
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:54,840
he could see was a a dull yellow light

1743
01:14:52,979 --> 01:14:57,178
that had expanded to about four feet in

1744
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,800
diameter it just literally grabbed the

1745
01:14:57,179 --> 01:15:00,899
outside edges of this opening pulled

1746
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:03,000
itself through came out stepped onto the

1747
01:15:00,899 --> 01:15:06,119
dirt road and ran off into the darkness

1748
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:07,920
the creature stood up

1749
01:15:06,119 --> 01:15:10,260
once it got out onto the ground and

1750
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:12,539
walked away into the darkness I mean can

1751
01:15:10,260 --> 01:15:16,860
you imagine two people on the top of a

1752
01:15:12,539 --> 01:15:18,779
cliff or a sort of a a bluff 150 feet

1753
01:15:16,859 --> 01:15:22,319
off the ground in the middle of nowhere

1754
01:15:18,779 --> 01:15:23,880
and then the opening began to shrink and

1755
01:15:22,319 --> 01:15:25,139
collapse in on itself and turned into a

1756
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:27,359
brilliant light that just faded away

1757
01:15:25,140 --> 01:15:30,360
that's a perfect description that was

1758
01:15:27,359 --> 01:15:32,759
given by Matt Visser and John Kramer and

1759
01:15:30,359 --> 01:15:35,099
Bob forward and other colleagues of

1760
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:38,340
theirs in a physical review paper on the

1761
01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:40,380
optical nature of wormholes I mean that

1762
01:15:38,340 --> 01:15:42,840
is not I would say military technology

1763
01:15:40,380 --> 01:15:47,539
that's some kind of a phenomena that has

1764
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:47,539
its Max of interdimensional phenomena

1765
01:15:48,238 --> 01:15:51,238
foreign

1766
01:15:55,920 --> 01:16:00,600
tribal Elders believe this Ridge is a

1767
01:15:58,260 --> 01:16:03,239
path used by the skinwalker as it moves

1768
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:07,640
from one place to another

1769
01:16:03,238 --> 01:16:07,639
the question becomes where does it live

1770
01:16:08,039 --> 01:16:12,060
the answer according to the tribe is

1771
01:16:10,500 --> 01:16:13,800
Dark Canyon

1772
01:16:12,060 --> 01:16:17,100
a place steeped in Legend and

1773
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:20,100
Superstition dominated by Tall Pines and

1774
01:16:17,100 --> 01:16:22,320
Spirits from other realities

1775
01:16:20,100 --> 01:16:23,940
with the help of our Uinta friends we

1776
01:16:22,319 --> 01:16:26,158
obtained something rarely given

1777
01:16:23,939 --> 01:16:29,639
permission from the tribe to bring our

1778
01:16:26,158 --> 01:16:32,698
cameras Into the Heart of Dark Canyon

1779
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:34,980
we soon found that the name fits

1780
01:16:32,698 --> 01:16:39,119
while there we heard encounter Tales

1781
01:16:34,979 --> 01:16:41,698
From a young woman named Shelby

1782
01:16:39,119 --> 01:16:43,619
it was reflective and the reflection of

1783
01:16:41,698 --> 01:16:45,359
the light was what caught my eye as we

1784
01:16:43,619 --> 01:16:49,679
were watching the hikers come up and

1785
01:16:45,359 --> 01:16:51,420
over the mountain up in the corner like

1786
01:16:49,679 --> 01:16:53,399
in the crook of the mountain there was a

1787
01:16:51,420 --> 01:16:56,520
saucer that had come up then over and

1788
01:16:53,399 --> 01:16:59,460
down and back down and I tried pointing

1789
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:02,040
it out to her she was too late but

1790
01:16:59,460 --> 01:17:04,920
that's awesome yeah

1791
01:17:02,039 --> 01:17:07,560
it was pretty significant in size

1792
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:10,020
plastic plank saucer

1793
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:12,480
I don't think there's anyone else in my

1794
01:17:10,020 --> 01:17:14,940
family who's willing to admit what's

1795
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:16,979
what goes on is this the kind of thing

1796
01:17:14,939 --> 01:17:19,678
that runs in the family

1797
01:17:16,979 --> 01:17:21,238
for me and my mother it does

1798
01:17:19,679 --> 01:17:23,279
I think it's because you and your mother

1799
01:17:21,238 --> 01:17:25,198
are open to this I don't necessarily

1800
01:17:23,279 --> 01:17:27,119
think we're open to it I think that it

1801
01:17:25,198 --> 01:17:29,639
comes to us is this your first time

1802
01:17:27,119 --> 01:17:32,460
talking about it publicly yeah are you

1803
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:33,840
worried about the reaction I am just

1804
01:17:32,460 --> 01:17:38,640
because of my profession

1805
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:41,100
I I worry that it's gonna follow me and

1806
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:43,380
you work in public education so I guess

1807
01:17:41,100 --> 01:17:46,500
you have to worry what will my employer

1808
01:17:43,380 --> 01:17:48,239
think about it yeah have you ever told

1809
01:17:46,500 --> 01:17:50,399
your anybody you work with that you've

1810
01:17:48,238 --> 01:17:51,419
had experiences that we'll discuss I

1811
01:17:50,399 --> 01:17:55,399
have

1812
01:17:51,420 --> 01:17:55,399
everybody has their their story

1813
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,620
a lot of the times with my experiences

1814
01:17:57,539 --> 01:18:00,840
I've

1815
01:17:58,619 --> 01:18:03,238
I put them on a shelf and I don't like

1816
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:05,579
to think about them or revisit them

1817
01:18:03,238 --> 01:18:09,178
because they've

1818
01:18:05,579 --> 01:18:12,719
impacted or I try not to let them impact

1819
01:18:09,179 --> 01:18:14,640
so disassociated with it that I don't I

1820
01:18:12,719 --> 01:18:16,560
don't think about it

1821
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,719
I think that's something that I'm gonna

1822
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:21,960
impress you have a missing time

1823
01:18:18,719 --> 01:18:24,600
experience I do can you share that I

1824
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,619
woke up around one o'clock and I

1825
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:28,679
remember

1826
01:18:25,619 --> 01:18:30,319
that I sat up I remember being aware of

1827
01:18:28,679 --> 01:18:32,640
what I was doing but not having control

1828
01:18:30,319 --> 01:18:34,319
over what I was doing

1829
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:36,000
and I got out of bed

1830
01:18:34,319 --> 01:18:37,259
and I walked into their living room

1831
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:41,279
dining area

1832
01:18:37,260 --> 01:18:44,100
and I looked to their

1833
01:18:41,279 --> 01:18:46,619
um to their

1834
01:18:44,100 --> 01:18:48,480
their window that was that oversaw their

1835
01:18:46,619 --> 01:18:52,319
dining room table and I remember seeing

1836
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:53,879
two bright spotlights and next thing I

1837
01:18:52,319 --> 01:18:55,679
remember is I was facing the opposite

1838
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,600
direction more towards their stove

1839
01:18:55,679 --> 01:18:59,880
looking at the clock and

1840
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:02,280
at that time it was eight o'clock and I

1841
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:04,079
went back to bed and so five or six

1842
01:19:02,279 --> 01:19:06,899
hours had passed yeah and you're

1843
01:19:04,079 --> 01:19:08,100
standing looking at a stove yep and you

1844
01:19:06,899 --> 01:19:09,599
don't know how you guys I don't know how

1845
01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:13,579
I got there tell us a little bit about

1846
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:13,579
the nature of the light how bright

1847
01:19:14,420 --> 01:19:20,340
I remember it Illuminating the entire

1848
01:19:17,460 --> 01:19:22,140
area

1849
01:19:20,340 --> 01:19:25,020
how bright what was the nature of your

1850
01:19:22,140 --> 01:19:28,860
life undescribable it was a describe his

1851
01:19:25,020 --> 01:19:32,100
day it was brighter it was

1852
01:19:28,859 --> 01:19:35,158
I I can't even describe to you like no

1853
01:19:32,100 --> 01:19:37,020
LED no flashlight nothing can compare

1854
01:19:35,158 --> 01:19:38,639
to the to the brightness of those lights

1855
01:19:37,020 --> 01:19:40,620
into the whiteness

1856
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:42,719
of the lights

1857
01:19:40,619 --> 01:19:45,599
brighter than the sun it's like nothing

1858
01:19:42,719 --> 01:19:48,260
we've seen before these experiences have

1859
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,260
they changed you

1860
01:19:49,738 --> 01:19:55,799
I think so

1861
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:57,960
is it about this area the basin is it

1862
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:59,880
the tribe is it the the people that live

1863
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:03,119
here that attracts all this different

1864
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:05,219
stuff or is it everywhere I don't know I

1865
01:20:03,119 --> 01:20:07,019
have no clue some people call them they

1866
01:20:05,219 --> 01:20:08,819
refer to them as hitchhikers that these

1867
01:20:07,020 --> 01:20:11,880
things follow you around from my own

1868
01:20:08,819 --> 01:20:14,039
experiences if you invite something it

1869
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:16,319
will come and it'll become attached to

1870
01:20:14,039 --> 01:20:20,238
you and it'll stay attached until you

1871
01:20:16,319 --> 01:20:20,238
tell it to leave foreign

1872
01:20:24,238 --> 01:20:27,839
the unfortunate thing is this weird

1873
01:20:25,979 --> 01:20:29,339
phenomena is not amenable to Laboratory

1874
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,140
Testing where we can control the

1875
01:20:29,340 --> 01:20:33,360
conditions we thought we could we

1876
01:20:31,140 --> 01:20:34,679
attempted to we tried as much as we

1877
01:20:33,359 --> 01:20:36,839
could within the boundaries of our

1878
01:20:34,679 --> 01:20:38,520
budget to control conditions and it

1879
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:40,560
turned out the phenomena controlled us

1880
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,940
and controlled itself it basically did

1881
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:44,520
everything it could to avoid us

1882
01:20:41,939 --> 01:20:46,259
absolutely it did not want to engage and

1883
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,580
interact us that much after the first

1884
01:20:46,260 --> 01:20:49,380
year and a half

1885
01:20:47,579 --> 01:20:52,500
that we were there working on that

1886
01:20:49,380 --> 01:20:54,480
property that phenomena I am sure was

1887
01:20:52,500 --> 01:20:56,579
cognizant of our presence there and

1888
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:58,859
basically did not want to allow us to

1889
01:20:56,579 --> 01:21:00,420
detect it put record it and film it in

1890
01:20:58,859 --> 01:21:02,158
any form or fashion like all of the

1891
01:21:00,420 --> 01:21:04,619
investigators who tried to crack the

1892
01:21:02,158 --> 01:21:07,259
mysteries of the ranch physicist Dr Eric

1893
01:21:04,619 --> 01:21:10,380
Davis became frustrated by The elusive

1894
01:21:07,260 --> 01:21:12,539
nature of the target Dr John Alexander

1895
01:21:10,380 --> 01:21:15,300
the former Army intelligence officer

1896
01:21:12,539 --> 01:21:17,760
coined the term pre-cognitive sentient

1897
01:21:15,300 --> 01:21:20,100
intelligence to describe the entity on

1898
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:22,440
the ranch precognitive because it could

1899
01:21:20,100 --> 01:21:24,179
anticipate what came next one of the

1900
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:27,000
things that happened

1901
01:21:24,179 --> 01:21:29,940
in Utah at the ranch it was very

1902
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:34,198
perplexing was it seemed like whatever

1903
01:21:29,939 --> 01:21:36,779
was presenting the phenomena to us knew

1904
01:21:34,198 --> 01:21:38,460
what we were going to do and what was

1905
01:21:36,779 --> 01:21:40,019
going to be a response and would do

1906
01:21:38,460 --> 01:21:41,939
something different

1907
01:21:40,020 --> 01:21:43,739
the family that lived on the property

1908
01:21:41,939 --> 01:21:45,899
felt from the beginning that it was

1909
01:21:43,738 --> 01:21:48,479
being watched that something was pulling

1910
01:21:45,899 --> 01:21:50,519
strings playing tricks of all the

1911
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:53,879
strange incidents that were reported on

1912
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:56,100
the ranch one in particular stands alone

1913
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,779
there's a trickster element to it yeah

1914
01:21:56,100 --> 01:21:59,699
there's a trickster element to it and I

1915
01:21:57,779 --> 01:22:02,119
think the the the biggest one that

1916
01:21:59,698 --> 01:22:04,439
really would blow most people's minds

1917
01:22:02,119 --> 01:22:06,119
scientists or anybody trying to analyze

1918
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:08,579
this of course as the account of the

1919
01:22:06,119 --> 01:22:11,219
Bulls in the trailer there were four to

1920
01:22:08,579 --> 01:22:12,000
two thousand pound Bulls in this uh in

1921
01:22:11,219 --> 01:22:14,239
this

1922
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:17,219
little Corral here

1923
01:22:14,238 --> 01:22:19,619
1999. earlier in the day the Rancher had

1924
01:22:17,219 --> 01:22:21,000
come across strange tracks in the dense

1925
01:22:19,619 --> 01:22:23,819
brush on the edge of the middle

1926
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:26,279
Homestead tracks unlike anything he'd

1927
01:22:23,819 --> 01:22:28,859
ever seen the family was on edge because

1928
01:22:26,279 --> 01:22:31,139
by that point they'd lost a dozen or

1929
01:22:28,859 --> 01:22:33,299
more head of expensive cattle they

1930
01:22:31,140 --> 01:22:36,480
couldn't afford to lose anymore about

1931
01:22:33,300 --> 01:22:39,600
two o'clock in the afternoon the Rancher

1932
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:42,059
and his wife were driving past

1933
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:43,739
on their way down to the West End of the

1934
01:22:42,060 --> 01:22:46,320
property to check on on their other

1935
01:22:43,738 --> 01:22:47,899
animals so these were their four best

1936
01:22:46,319 --> 01:22:52,259
thoroughbred

1937
01:22:47,899 --> 01:22:54,119
registered Black Angus and cemental

1938
01:22:52,260 --> 01:22:57,119
Bulls they were like very valuable

1939
01:22:54,119 --> 01:23:00,300
animals thousands of dollars each and

1940
01:22:57,119 --> 01:23:01,979
you know Terry and Gwen are the Rancher

1941
01:23:00,300 --> 01:23:04,260
and his wife

1942
01:23:01,979 --> 01:23:06,479
as they were driving past remarked on

1943
01:23:04,260 --> 01:23:09,119
how devastating it would be

1944
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:11,519
to them financially if they lost those

1945
01:23:09,119 --> 01:23:13,859
animals it was as if someone overheard

1946
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:15,719
their concerns when they returned to the

1947
01:23:13,859 --> 01:23:17,339
Corral an hour later and they were

1948
01:23:15,719 --> 01:23:20,219
driving past the Corral here on this

1949
01:23:17,340 --> 01:23:22,739
track when they realized no bulls the

1950
01:23:20,219 --> 01:23:25,260
bulls were gone from the Corral

1951
01:23:22,738 --> 01:23:26,718
so they panicked you know they they ran

1952
01:23:25,260 --> 01:23:29,820
over here

1953
01:23:26,719 --> 01:23:33,179
searching and the entire Chorale was

1954
01:23:29,819 --> 01:23:36,238
empty and then just out of out of kind

1955
01:23:33,179 --> 01:23:38,819
of instinct the Rancher climbed over

1956
01:23:36,238 --> 01:23:41,459
into the Corral into this Corral here

1957
01:23:38,819 --> 01:23:43,500
and walked over to this trailer trailer

1958
01:23:41,460 --> 01:23:45,480
was used to store tools and other

1959
01:23:43,500 --> 01:23:48,000
equipment there was only one way into it

1960
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:50,399
and the only latch was still secured by

1961
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:52,800
heavy wire just as the Rancher had left

1962
01:23:50,399 --> 01:23:54,719
it the door was still locked this this

1963
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:57,659
latch was actually

1964
01:23:54,719 --> 01:24:00,560
pulled way down here

1965
01:23:57,658 --> 01:24:03,359
it was obvious it had never been opened

1966
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:05,219
it was pulled down here

1967
01:24:03,359 --> 01:24:06,479
this was locked

1968
01:24:05,219 --> 01:24:09,480
um

1969
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:12,959
this doorway here was open

1970
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:15,479
and um he looked in and all four animals

1971
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:17,819
were standing there like totally dazed

1972
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:20,399
and

1973
01:24:17,819 --> 01:24:22,139
to work with even a single Bull getting

1974
01:24:20,399 --> 01:24:25,738
him into an enclosed space like this

1975
01:24:22,140 --> 01:24:28,739
would be almost impossible to get four 2

1976
01:24:25,738 --> 01:24:30,959
000 pound Bulls into a tiny tiny

1977
01:24:28,738 --> 01:24:33,419
enclosed space where they were squashed

1978
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:36,600
up against each other would be

1979
01:24:33,420 --> 01:24:39,899
completely impossible but anyway Terry

1980
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:42,060
yelled or the Rancher yelled to his wife

1981
01:24:39,899 --> 01:24:44,399
that he had found the animals on his

1982
01:24:42,060 --> 01:24:47,340
yell just seemed to wake them up out of

1983
01:24:44,399 --> 01:24:49,920
this catatonic trance or days they were

1984
01:24:47,340 --> 01:24:51,539
in and suddenly they just went ape when

1985
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,579
they realized they were in this crammed

1986
01:24:51,539 --> 01:24:55,859
space they went crazy they started

1987
01:24:53,579 --> 01:24:58,140
kicking down the sides of this thing and

1988
01:24:55,859 --> 01:25:00,539
they kicked one of the doors there's a

1989
01:24:58,140 --> 01:25:02,820
aborted door at the other end there they

1990
01:25:00,539 --> 01:25:05,640
kicked the door open and they and they

1991
01:25:02,819 --> 01:25:07,679
just went absolutely wild they destroyed

1992
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,960
the inside of this trailer in like

1993
01:25:07,679 --> 01:25:11,819
minutes

1994
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:14,399
eventually it took the Rancher and his

1995
01:25:11,819 --> 01:25:18,059
wife about four hours to hurt the

1996
01:25:14,399 --> 01:25:20,039
animals back back through here and in

1997
01:25:18,060 --> 01:25:22,620
here and

1998
01:25:20,039 --> 01:25:27,000
in the space of an hour

1999
01:25:22,619 --> 01:25:30,119
um something had induced or forced or

2000
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:31,880
persuaded those four extremely

2001
01:25:30,119 --> 01:25:34,439
aggressive animals

2002
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:37,380
to cram themselves into this trailer

2003
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:38,819
without opening this door this door was

2004
01:25:37,380 --> 01:25:42,000
not opened

2005
01:25:38,819 --> 01:25:44,279
because we actually checked that to see

2006
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:46,920
there was cobwebs and all of that on the

2007
01:25:44,279 --> 01:25:50,158
on the inside of the door and it was

2008
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:52,440
quite obvious from this from this setup

2009
01:25:50,158 --> 01:25:54,599
here that this had not been moved at all

2010
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:55,859
we've moved it back and forth when we've

2011
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,840
examined this

2012
01:25:55,859 --> 01:25:58,619
since then but

2013
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:01,679
um

2014
01:25:58,619 --> 01:26:04,399
these animals in response to what Terry

2015
01:26:01,679 --> 01:26:06,840
or to the Rancher and his wife has said

2016
01:26:04,399 --> 01:26:08,099
obviously had been put in there as some

2017
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:10,139
kind of a

2018
01:26:08,100 --> 01:26:12,239
prank whatever

2019
01:26:10,139 --> 01:26:15,600
again to underline

2020
01:26:12,238 --> 01:26:16,799
anxiety to create anxiety in a Rancher

2021
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:19,260
and his wife that they had lost their

2022
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:21,600
animals

2023
01:26:19,260 --> 01:26:23,639
this is a photo of the Bulls taking a

2024
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:25,920
few hours after they were released and

2025
01:26:23,639 --> 01:26:28,020
they were still in a surly mood the

2026
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:29,880
nid's team wasn't on the property at the

2027
01:26:28,020 --> 01:26:32,460
time of the incident but arrived soon

2028
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:34,800
after almost as strange as the treatment

2029
01:26:32,460 --> 01:26:37,560
of the Bulls was the physical evidence

2030
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:40,560
left at the scene the bars of the Corral

2031
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:42,719
had been magnetized examining this metal

2032
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:45,539
structure all along the length of the

2033
01:26:42,719 --> 01:26:49,319
metal structure it was extremely highly

2034
01:26:45,539 --> 01:26:51,238
magnetized the entire Corral here there

2035
01:26:49,319 --> 01:26:53,759
was a magnetic field deviation for

2036
01:26:51,238 --> 01:26:56,339
several hours on this Corral and then it

2037
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:59,760
just kind of dissipated

2038
01:26:56,340 --> 01:27:03,000
but um very strong magnetic field along

2039
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:05,280
this entire length of Corral

2040
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:07,380
that was the only clue that was found to

2041
01:27:05,279 --> 01:27:11,039
what happened here and it doesn't even

2042
01:27:07,380 --> 01:27:13,139
tie into how exactly it happened so you

2043
01:27:11,039 --> 01:27:14,880
can't just say it was teenagers who came

2044
01:27:13,139 --> 01:27:17,340
up came into the Corral and got these

2045
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:20,699
holes into this thing no you need to be

2046
01:27:17,340 --> 01:27:23,100
extremely even to get one ball into this

2047
01:27:20,698 --> 01:27:25,859
this Corral I mean forcing a ball to

2048
01:27:23,100 --> 01:27:28,020
climb even climb up this into an

2049
01:27:25,859 --> 01:27:30,899
enclosed space is just impossible

2050
01:27:28,020 --> 01:27:33,300
you know and and the fact is it was

2051
01:27:30,899 --> 01:27:35,519
verified pretty well convincingly that

2052
01:27:33,300 --> 01:27:37,860
this door had not opened in the

2053
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:39,480
interruption huh and that's the only way

2054
01:27:37,859 --> 01:27:41,759
in from the Corral

2055
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:43,919
I mean it's another one of these brain

2056
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:46,170
teasers you know how exactly was it done

2057
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:52,890
why was it done all of that

2058
01:27:46,170 --> 01:27:52,890
[Music]

2059
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:05,419
in the Uinta Basin you are being visited

2060
01:28:03,539 --> 01:28:09,060
by something that appears to be

2061
01:28:05,420 --> 01:28:12,600
non-human yes

2062
01:28:09,060 --> 01:28:17,520
what is your full name my name is Gary

2063
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:19,260
walking libach puyap I got to talk with

2064
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:21,179
your mom and kind of hear her

2065
01:28:19,260 --> 01:28:22,980
perspective over over months and months

2066
01:28:21,179 --> 01:28:24,539
on the phone and finally we had a

2067
01:28:22,979 --> 01:28:27,079
interview

2068
01:28:24,539 --> 01:28:29,238
the moment that changed your mom's ideas

2069
01:28:27,079 --> 01:28:32,760
do you know the one I'm talking about

2070
01:28:29,238 --> 01:28:34,619
what happened it was dead night we just

2071
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:36,659
stepped out of our truck

2072
01:28:34,619 --> 01:28:38,099
I'm just walking my own way and she's

2073
01:28:36,658 --> 01:28:40,079
walking this way

2074
01:28:38,100 --> 01:28:43,560
that out of nowhere

2075
01:28:40,079 --> 01:28:45,600
and it just lit up right as this and

2076
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:48,060
just as you see in the windows that's

2077
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,780
how bright it was just went back to

2078
01:28:48,060 --> 01:28:50,400
black

2079
01:28:48,779 --> 01:28:52,619
that's what I hear from so many people

2080
01:28:50,399 --> 01:28:55,319
they always say it was it was brighter

2081
01:28:52,619 --> 01:28:57,658
than the sun we've had a lot of reports

2082
01:28:55,319 --> 01:28:59,099
of Lights from the sky coming down and

2083
01:28:57,658 --> 01:29:01,619
hitting people

2084
01:28:59,100 --> 01:29:02,340
and some people have gotten sick from

2085
01:29:01,619 --> 01:29:04,439
that

2086
01:29:02,340 --> 01:29:06,840
uh like Burns

2087
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:08,879
and you described one experience of that

2088
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:11,520
yes so there have been negative health

2089
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:13,500
effects from the Burns so just to get

2090
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:16,679
personal let me ask you first you have a

2091
01:29:13,500 --> 01:29:21,719
medical condition no yes can you tell me

2092
01:29:16,679 --> 01:29:24,719
about that this is the MS okay Ms

2093
01:29:21,719 --> 01:29:27,539
I'm only 30 years old first one in

2094
01:29:24,719 --> 01:29:29,819
family history I'm the only one

2095
01:29:27,539 --> 01:29:31,920
it's hard for your mom you can see she's

2096
01:29:29,819 --> 01:29:33,779
it's hard for her right and in any

2097
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:36,658
family yeah

2098
01:29:33,779 --> 01:29:39,599
one thing she asked is she's curious if

2099
01:29:36,658 --> 01:29:41,339
these lights had any negative impact on

2100
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:43,500
your guy's health

2101
01:29:41,340 --> 01:29:46,560
do you feel there's any connection to

2102
01:29:43,500 --> 01:29:49,079
that or do you feel it's just not that I

2103
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:51,659
feel like it's not

2104
01:29:49,079 --> 01:29:53,760
these things you're seeing I remember I

2105
01:29:51,658 --> 01:29:56,099
was just hearing not ringing again but

2106
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:58,619
it was only on one side on my left side

2107
01:29:56,100 --> 01:30:01,440
I'd use my cane and not walk around and

2108
01:29:58,619 --> 01:30:04,619
get right here I saw the moon as bright

2109
01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:07,738
it was then I just see this object a

2110
01:30:04,619 --> 01:30:10,260
white object circling it then it came

2111
01:30:07,738 --> 01:30:12,959
back around and it did it again then it

2112
01:30:10,260 --> 01:30:14,579
just went and it went backwards towards

2113
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:18,000
it and I can remember seeing it just

2114
01:30:14,579 --> 01:30:20,219
jolt and just see that weird Flash

2115
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:23,039
I guess it probably noticed me or

2116
01:30:20,219 --> 01:30:25,039
something then it just took off you're

2117
01:30:23,039 --> 01:30:28,859
talking about craft

2118
01:30:25,039 --> 01:30:31,139
unusual uh propulsion yes so it's not

2119
01:30:28,859 --> 01:30:33,059
just the ranch it's all around you into

2120
01:30:31,139 --> 01:30:34,859
basins around your home around your

2121
01:30:33,060 --> 01:30:38,280
property whatever this phenomenon is

2122
01:30:34,859 --> 01:30:40,198
it's all around you here yes

2123
01:30:38,279 --> 01:30:42,359
some people have been harmed by these

2124
01:30:40,198 --> 01:30:44,099
their lives have been changed once you

2125
01:30:42,359 --> 01:30:46,738
see something like this you can never

2126
01:30:44,100 --> 01:30:49,920
see the world the same again it just has

2127
01:30:46,738 --> 01:30:53,579
to happen to you something is here

2128
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:56,219
is it real oh yes I believe it is much

2129
01:30:53,579 --> 01:30:58,619
real all those deniers you know then

2130
01:30:56,219 --> 01:31:00,960
just come out here I don't care how many

2131
01:30:58,619 --> 01:31:03,359
numbers they just got to have that kind

2132
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:05,399
of experience but it's a Gamble

2133
01:31:03,359 --> 01:31:09,359
some days they're here some days they're

2134
01:31:05,399 --> 01:31:12,479
not it'll be take days weeks months just

2135
01:31:09,359 --> 01:31:15,359
to have just one little experience I

2136
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:18,059
think just one even just seeing a light

2137
01:31:15,359 --> 01:31:21,059
or a UFO just coming by just once just

2138
01:31:18,060 --> 01:31:22,739
get that one image just like that and

2139
01:31:21,060 --> 01:31:24,420
then we'll just be with them for the

2140
01:31:22,738 --> 01:31:26,218
rest of their life just that one little

2141
01:31:24,420 --> 01:31:29,219
piece why does this area have so many

2142
01:31:26,219 --> 01:31:32,698
things all concentrate I think there's a

2143
01:31:29,219 --> 01:31:36,300
main porthole somewhere here

2144
01:31:32,698 --> 01:31:38,939
there are big displays and the cops are

2145
01:31:36,300 --> 01:31:42,840
called out something is coming over this

2146
01:31:38,939 --> 01:31:45,599
area beaming lights your concern last

2147
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:48,060
time was is this having negative effects

2148
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:51,239
on the people I love and is it

2149
01:31:48,060 --> 01:31:52,920
government or is it entities other

2150
01:31:51,238 --> 01:31:55,138
beings

2151
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:57,239
you're both not in your head's attempt

2152
01:31:55,139 --> 01:31:58,500
so what is it what does that mean what

2153
01:31:57,238 --> 01:32:00,899
could it be

2154
01:31:58,500 --> 01:32:01,679
is it from here or is it from somewhere

2155
01:32:00,899 --> 01:32:04,979
else

2156
01:32:01,679 --> 01:32:07,980
the other side or a different world or

2157
01:32:04,979 --> 01:32:10,919
somewhere different solar system just

2158
01:32:07,979 --> 01:32:13,738
visiting the universe is wild there's

2159
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:16,500
many planets I don't know I really would

2160
01:32:13,738 --> 01:32:19,198
like to know maybe find out at least

2161
01:32:16,500 --> 01:32:23,100
something if people wanted to come and

2162
01:32:19,198 --> 01:32:25,259
visit this place your area

2163
01:32:23,100 --> 01:32:27,659
um would you advise them to do that or

2164
01:32:25,260 --> 01:32:29,820
to not do that

2165
01:32:27,658 --> 01:32:31,079
if you're curious come and see yourself

2166
01:32:29,819 --> 01:32:33,599
you know

2167
01:32:31,079 --> 01:32:37,380
because I can sit here and tell you

2168
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:40,260
forever all my experiences but that's me

2169
01:32:37,380 --> 01:32:42,600
but there are risks but they are they

2170
01:32:40,260 --> 01:32:45,060
yes there is risks

2171
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:47,780
you might see something you

2172
01:32:45,060 --> 01:32:51,179
can't handle or you might

2173
01:32:47,779 --> 01:32:53,579
experience uh

2174
01:32:51,179 --> 01:32:55,859
entity I'm gonna say that you can't

2175
01:32:53,579 --> 01:32:59,460
handle and so

2176
01:32:55,859 --> 01:33:01,079
yeah I don't know it's hard yes and no I

2177
01:32:59,460 --> 01:33:03,800
I could just it'd be up to that

2178
01:33:01,079 --> 01:33:03,800
individual

2179
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,380
we

2180
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:29,960
AK

2181
01:33:35,939 --> 01:33:40,079
the Gormans were especially sensitive to

2182
01:33:38,399 --> 01:33:42,059
the incident with the bulls because of

2183
01:33:40,079 --> 01:33:45,238
the losses they'd already suffered out

2184
01:33:42,060 --> 01:33:47,639
of a herd of 80 cattle they lost 14 head

2185
01:33:45,238 --> 01:33:50,759
prior to the arrival of nids some

2186
01:33:47,639 --> 01:33:52,980
disappeared others were sliced up twelve

2187
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:55,139
more cows and calves were killed while

2188
01:33:52,979 --> 01:33:57,718
nids was on the ranch their neighbors

2189
01:33:55,139 --> 01:33:59,639
the Garcias lost several animals as well

2190
01:33:57,719 --> 01:34:01,500
some of their cattle appeared to have

2191
01:33:59,639 --> 01:34:03,960
been killed by being dropped onto the

2192
01:34:01,500 --> 01:34:06,119
pasture from a great height the cattle

2193
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:08,579
mutilation mystery has been reported in

2194
01:34:06,119 --> 01:34:11,158
at least 15 states dating back to the

2195
01:34:08,579 --> 01:34:13,859
1960s thousands of animals have been

2196
01:34:11,158 --> 01:34:16,259
sliced up with surgical Precision mostly

2197
01:34:13,859 --> 01:34:18,599
under the cover of Darkness if humans

2198
01:34:16,260 --> 01:34:21,000
are doing it not a single suspect has

2199
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:23,520
ever been caught for the Gormans the

2200
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:25,979
livestock losses were devastating both

2201
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:28,980
financially and psychologically and then

2202
01:34:25,979 --> 01:34:32,579
things got worse

2203
01:34:28,979 --> 01:34:34,379
on March 10 1997 Tom Gorman and his wife

2204
01:34:32,579 --> 01:34:36,899
walked out of their home and into the

2205
01:34:34,380 --> 01:34:39,060
pasture planning to tag the ears of

2206
01:34:36,899 --> 01:34:41,219
several calves that had been born in the

2207
01:34:39,060 --> 01:34:43,980
preceding days it was a bright clear

2208
01:34:41,219 --> 01:34:45,420
morning snow was on the ground 50 yards

2209
01:34:43,979 --> 01:34:47,399
from their house they found the first

2210
01:34:45,420 --> 01:34:51,658
calf because they were with their their

2211
01:34:47,399 --> 01:34:54,059
dog the two of them tagged and weighed

2212
01:34:51,658 --> 01:34:55,920
this animal they they checked it at I

2213
01:34:54,060 --> 01:35:00,179
believe was 84 pounds

2214
01:34:55,920 --> 01:35:01,440
or 87 pounds and they left the animal

2215
01:35:00,179 --> 01:35:03,179
there

2216
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:05,460
with the with the mother everything

2217
01:35:03,179 --> 01:35:09,239
seemed to be fine although they did

2218
01:35:05,460 --> 01:35:12,420
detect an odor in the air around this uh

2219
01:35:09,238 --> 01:35:14,039
area they they detected a strong musk

2220
01:35:12,420 --> 01:35:16,139
smell

2221
01:35:14,039 --> 01:35:18,960
um they took note of it and then they

2222
01:35:16,139 --> 01:35:21,659
headed west and they went about 300

2223
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:24,359
yards west beyond the the dog run was is

2224
01:35:21,658 --> 01:35:26,779
not was not there at the time but about

2225
01:35:24,359 --> 01:35:29,819
300 yards Beyond

2226
01:35:26,779 --> 01:35:32,039
towards where that incline is

2227
01:35:29,819 --> 01:35:34,799
um and they were tagging a second animal

2228
01:35:32,039 --> 01:35:37,019
only 30 to 40 minutes had passed the

2229
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:38,940
Gormans had an unobstructed view of

2230
01:35:37,020 --> 01:35:41,820
everything in the field but didn't see

2231
01:35:38,939 --> 01:35:44,099
or hear anything unusual until their dog

2232
01:35:41,819 --> 01:35:46,859
focused its attention back toward the

2233
01:35:44,100 --> 01:35:49,199
house and the first calf the dog with

2234
01:35:46,859 --> 01:35:51,299
them down here at this stage began to

2235
01:35:49,198 --> 01:35:53,279
act really strangely it started growling

2236
01:35:51,300 --> 01:35:55,800
the hair on the back of its neck went up

2237
01:35:53,279 --> 01:35:59,460
and it started facing back

2238
01:35:55,800 --> 01:36:02,159
towards here growling and snarling and

2239
01:35:59,460 --> 01:36:04,139
then it just took off West away from

2240
01:36:02,158 --> 01:36:06,719
this spot it just took off it was never

2241
01:36:04,139 --> 01:36:08,699
seen again the Gormans were curious and

2242
01:36:06,719 --> 01:36:11,279
walked back across the field first thing

2243
01:36:08,698 --> 01:36:14,638
they saw was the mother of the animal

2244
01:36:11,279 --> 01:36:15,859
was running back and forth kind of in a

2245
01:36:14,639 --> 01:36:19,319
in a

2246
01:36:15,859 --> 01:36:22,079
sort of half circle from about this area

2247
01:36:19,319 --> 01:36:24,238
to the fence line just running back and

2248
01:36:22,079 --> 01:36:26,460
forth and it was limping I mean it was

2249
01:36:24,238 --> 01:36:28,138
dragging its foot it was limping they

2250
01:36:26,460 --> 01:36:30,719
met the animal

2251
01:36:28,139 --> 01:36:33,119
um and they noticed that it was just

2252
01:36:30,719 --> 01:36:35,340
totally out of breath it was panting it

2253
01:36:33,119 --> 01:36:37,439
was obviously in deep stress and it was

2254
01:36:35,340 --> 01:36:39,960
dragging one leg and then they noticed

2255
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:41,939
the calf or what was left of it

2256
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:45,600
spread eagle on the ground just about

2257
01:36:41,939 --> 01:36:48,658
here with uh was it was lying with all

2258
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:51,719
four limbs just spread on the ground all

2259
01:36:48,658 --> 01:36:54,599
of its internal body cavity was gone it

2260
01:36:51,719 --> 01:36:57,719
was completely pretty well all of its

2261
01:36:54,600 --> 01:37:02,100
muscle was gone from the from the Torso

2262
01:36:57,719 --> 01:37:04,619
the legs were still intact but the one

2263
01:37:02,100 --> 01:37:07,260
of the ears was also gone so

2264
01:37:04,619 --> 01:37:09,238
they called Neds the Rancher placed a

2265
01:37:07,260 --> 01:37:11,159
call to the nid's investigators who'd

2266
01:37:09,238 --> 01:37:13,919
returned to Las Vegas for a rare weekend

2267
01:37:11,158 --> 01:37:15,899
off within a few hours a four-man team

2268
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:17,100
including a veterinarian was on the

2269
01:37:15,899 --> 01:37:19,619
scene

2270
01:37:17,100 --> 01:37:21,659
necropsy started and the first thing

2271
01:37:19,619 --> 01:37:23,819
that the veterinarian noticed during the

2272
01:37:21,658 --> 01:37:25,920
necropsy was that the the ear of the

2273
01:37:23,819 --> 01:37:27,599
animal had been sliced off with a very

2274
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:30,420
sharp instrument

2275
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:33,260
possibly a scalpel and the ear had

2276
01:37:30,420 --> 01:37:37,920
contained a very large plastic Yellow

2277
01:37:33,260 --> 01:37:42,060
Tag like a an air tag that they had just

2278
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:43,460
put on and it was gone so the necropsy

2279
01:37:42,060 --> 01:37:46,139
proceeded

2280
01:37:43,460 --> 01:37:48,060
about 10 feet away from the animal there

2281
01:37:46,139 --> 01:37:50,579
was a femur one of the femurs had been

2282
01:37:48,060 --> 01:37:53,219
forcibly ripped out of a ball and socket

2283
01:37:50,579 --> 01:37:55,979
joint which is extremely difficult to do

2284
01:37:53,219 --> 01:37:58,500
I mean strength it was it looked

2285
01:37:55,979 --> 01:38:01,138
initially you know superficially like a

2286
01:37:58,500 --> 01:38:03,300
massive Predator had just leaned waste

2287
01:38:01,139 --> 01:38:06,179
to this animal removed you know 60

2288
01:38:03,300 --> 01:38:07,860
pounds of meat in 45 minutes which we

2289
01:38:06,179 --> 01:38:09,779
don't know of any predator that could

2290
01:38:07,859 --> 01:38:12,299
have done that and how could a predator

2291
01:38:09,779 --> 01:38:14,819
inflict such Carnage without being seen

2292
01:38:12,300 --> 01:38:17,340
or heard by the Rancher his wife or his

2293
01:38:14,819 --> 01:38:19,319
dog who were a few hundred yards away in

2294
01:38:17,340 --> 01:38:21,900
the same field on what was a quiet

2295
01:38:19,319 --> 01:38:23,880
Sunday morning no four-legged Predator

2296
01:38:21,899 --> 01:38:25,979
known to science could do it

2297
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:27,659
the team gathered tissue and Bone

2298
01:38:25,979 --> 01:38:29,939
samples which were sent to three

2299
01:38:27,658 --> 01:38:32,399
independent pathology Labs the results

2300
01:38:29,939 --> 01:38:35,039
arrived later but confirmed what seemed

2301
01:38:32,399 --> 01:38:37,079
obvious in the pasture that day the calf

2302
01:38:35,039 --> 01:38:39,600
had been carved up by someone wielding

2303
01:38:37,079 --> 01:38:42,059
sharp metallic instruments a heavy

2304
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:45,120
machete like object had slammed into the

2305
01:38:42,060 --> 01:38:47,580
bones a smaller scalpel-like knife had

2306
01:38:45,119 --> 01:38:48,899
sliced the hide and muscle but closer

2307
01:38:47,579 --> 01:38:50,698
inspection revealed that it was

2308
01:38:48,899 --> 01:38:54,179
definitely sharp instruments used there

2309
01:38:50,698 --> 01:38:56,579
was no sign of blood there was no sign

2310
01:38:54,179 --> 01:38:59,399
of entrails around it was perfectly

2311
01:38:56,579 --> 01:39:01,260
clean not a drop of blood on the grass

2312
01:38:59,399 --> 01:39:02,939
we weren't even as far as doing an

2313
01:39:01,260 --> 01:39:04,639
experiment by pouring Blood on the grass

2314
01:39:02,939 --> 01:39:07,619
to see how fast it would seep through

2315
01:39:04,639 --> 01:39:09,480
videotape the grass and showed you know

2316
01:39:07,619 --> 01:39:11,639
even two days later you could still see

2317
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:13,619
the stain on the grass so there was no

2318
01:39:11,639 --> 01:39:15,840
blood whatsoever not a single drop

2319
01:39:13,619 --> 01:39:18,000
either underneath the animal on the

2320
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:20,639
animal or on the grass it was just

2321
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:22,920
completely clean a professional tracker

2322
01:39:20,639 --> 01:39:24,539
was brought in he scoured every inch of

2323
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:27,300
ground in and around on the field

2324
01:39:24,539 --> 01:39:29,698
looking for tracks human animal or

2325
01:39:27,300 --> 01:39:31,560
vehicle nothing eventually the

2326
01:39:29,698 --> 01:39:33,960
investigators reached an unsettling

2327
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:36,000
conclusion the bottom line is this

2328
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:38,399
animal must have been killed elsewhere

2329
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:40,079
because there was no blood there was no

2330
01:39:38,399 --> 01:39:42,420
blood on the scene and then the animal

2331
01:39:40,079 --> 01:39:46,019
must have been brought back laid down

2332
01:39:42,420 --> 01:39:48,359
carefully almost you know really almost

2333
01:39:46,020 --> 01:39:51,060
ritually on the spot where it had been

2334
01:39:48,359 --> 01:39:53,039
tagged the nids team investigated dozens

2335
01:39:51,060 --> 01:39:55,679
of Mutilation cases across the country

2336
01:39:53,039 --> 01:39:58,380
many of the tissue samples were analyzed

2337
01:39:55,679 --> 01:40:00,719
in need's own lab in Las Vegas and then

2338
01:39:58,380 --> 01:40:03,539
double checked by independent labs they

2339
01:40:00,719 --> 01:40:05,939
hired the Utah calf was in a category

2340
01:40:03,539 --> 01:40:08,698
all its own it seemed akin to

2341
01:40:05,939 --> 01:40:10,979
psychological warfare intended to shock

2342
01:40:08,698 --> 01:40:12,839
and frighten the witnesses the following

2343
01:40:10,979 --> 01:40:15,178
night there was another scare in the

2344
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:17,279
darkness of the first Homestead shots

2345
01:40:15,179 --> 01:40:19,800
were fired at something that had rattled

2346
01:40:17,279 --> 01:40:21,658
the herd eventually column Kelleher

2347
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:24,360
surmised that the perpetrators

2348
01:40:21,658 --> 01:40:26,698
responsible for the calf were technical

2349
01:40:24,359 --> 01:40:29,399
like an assembly line in a meat packing

2350
01:40:26,698 --> 01:40:32,178
plant a machine was involved with this

2351
01:40:29,399 --> 01:40:37,029
Carnage whatever happened to that calf

2352
01:40:32,179 --> 01:40:43,199
was a an extraordinarily skillful job

2353
01:40:37,029 --> 01:40:43,198
[Music]

2354
01:40:50,250 --> 01:40:53,948
[Music]

2355
01:40:55,619 --> 01:40:59,819
mutilations are clearly one aspect we

2356
01:40:58,020 --> 01:41:01,860
can put our finger on that we can

2357
01:40:59,819 --> 01:41:04,439
quantify to a degree

2358
01:41:01,859 --> 01:41:07,799
physical evidence remains after the

2359
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:09,059
event and we grasp to it in search of

2360
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:11,820
answers

2361
01:41:09,060 --> 01:41:14,280
who is performing these horrific acts of

2362
01:41:11,819 --> 01:41:15,599
violence are they meant to unsettle us

2363
01:41:14,279 --> 01:41:17,579
why

2364
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:20,420
and are there even answers to be found

2365
01:41:17,579 --> 01:41:20,420
in these questions

2366
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:24,179
during the time of the nid's

2367
01:41:22,079 --> 01:41:27,059
investigations the phenomenon recorded

2368
01:41:24,179 --> 01:41:30,658
and documented was more than elusive

2369
01:41:27,060 --> 01:41:33,659
it never actually repeated itself

2370
01:41:30,658 --> 01:41:36,059
from creatures to craft from disembodied

2371
01:41:33,658 --> 01:41:39,359
voices to trickster-like Paranormal

2372
01:41:36,060 --> 01:41:40,619
Activity it was a cosmic game of cat and

2373
01:41:39,359 --> 01:41:43,679
mouse

2374
01:41:40,618 --> 01:41:45,658
dark shadowy beings observed climbing

2375
01:41:43,679 --> 01:41:46,980
out of orange glowing geometric

2376
01:41:45,658 --> 01:41:49,559
portholes

2377
01:41:46,979 --> 01:41:53,419
silent craft carving out chunks of tree

2378
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:55,980
branches as they Traverse the landscape

2379
01:41:53,420 --> 01:41:59,100
geomagnetic anomalies sending compasses

2380
01:41:55,979 --> 01:42:01,379
into tail spins events indicating a

2381
01:41:59,100 --> 01:42:03,239
precognitive ability by the phenomenon

2382
01:42:01,380 --> 01:42:05,460
to know the next move of the

2383
01:42:03,238 --> 01:42:07,678
investigators

2384
01:42:05,460 --> 01:42:11,219
this area has been described as a

2385
01:42:07,679 --> 01:42:13,859
paranormal Disneyland if it's weird it's

2386
01:42:11,219 --> 01:42:16,800
happened in the Uinta basin

2387
01:42:13,859 --> 01:42:19,380
but by far the most constant theme in

2388
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:21,779
the area has always remained focused on

2389
01:42:19,380 --> 01:42:24,960
UFOs ships

2390
01:42:21,779 --> 01:42:27,500
that appear without discrimination

2391
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:30,719
but not just passive UFO sightings

2392
01:42:27,500 --> 01:42:32,698
sightings that are participatory

2393
01:42:30,719 --> 01:42:37,380
experiences that tend to communicate

2394
01:42:32,698 --> 01:42:39,118
with observers interact with them

2395
01:42:37,380 --> 01:42:42,359
it's been happening in the area since

2396
01:42:39,118 --> 01:42:44,779
humans settled there and it continues to

2397
01:42:42,359 --> 01:42:44,779
this day

2398
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:49,529
[Music]

2399
01:42:56,719 --> 01:42:59,840
thank you

2400
01:43:02,399 --> 01:43:04,579
foreign

2401
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:47,460
why are you keeping your identity Secret

2402
01:43:45,060 --> 01:43:49,080
I have chosen to keep my identity

2403
01:43:47,460 --> 01:43:52,739
confidential

2404
01:43:49,079 --> 01:43:56,279
to not only protect the Integrity of our

2405
01:43:52,738 --> 01:43:58,638
effort and to avoid distractions that

2406
01:43:56,279 --> 01:44:01,139
would potentially compromise our efforts

2407
01:43:58,639 --> 01:44:03,600
but also to

2408
01:44:01,139 --> 01:44:06,420
maintain a level of professionalism in

2409
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:10,139
my other business activities and

2410
01:44:06,420 --> 01:44:13,739
Enterprises I have a vast Empire

2411
01:44:10,139 --> 01:44:14,940
of business interests that I cannot

2412
01:44:13,738 --> 01:44:18,919
allow

2413
01:44:14,939 --> 01:44:21,299
to be compromised by virtue of any

2414
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:23,600
disclosure of mine involvement in this

2415
01:44:21,300 --> 01:44:23,600
effort

2416
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:41,119
everybody wants to know what is going on

2417
01:44:37,679 --> 01:44:43,980
at the ranch now have you

2418
01:44:41,118 --> 01:44:46,698
continued the research and have you

2419
01:44:43,979 --> 01:44:46,698
Amplified it

2420
01:44:46,738 --> 01:44:53,879
we have entered an entirely new and

2421
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:56,219
expanded era of scientific investigation

2422
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:58,500
at Skinwalker Ranch

2423
01:44:56,219 --> 01:45:02,179
since acquiring the property two years

2424
01:44:58,500 --> 01:45:05,460
ago from Mr Bigelow we have installed

2425
01:45:02,179 --> 01:45:07,319
significant security enhancements in

2426
01:45:05,460 --> 01:45:10,618
addition to Scientific instrumentation

2427
01:45:07,319 --> 01:45:14,579
that has allowed us to not only better

2428
01:45:10,618 --> 01:45:17,099
understand but also better document

2429
01:45:14,579 --> 01:45:19,679
the high strangeness in the anomalies

2430
01:45:17,100 --> 01:45:22,400
that have been recorded for decades if

2431
01:45:19,679 --> 01:45:22,399
not millennia

2432
01:45:28,139 --> 01:45:31,380
and wow and that's right here in the

2433
01:45:30,238 --> 01:45:36,118
field

2434
01:45:31,380 --> 01:45:37,800
solid craft wow and then is it familiar

2435
01:45:36,118 --> 01:45:39,299
Corel

2436
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:42,199
we're looking right up to where we're

2437
01:45:39,300 --> 01:45:42,199
sitting yep

2438
01:45:42,420 --> 01:45:46,679
wow

2439
01:45:44,279 --> 01:45:48,840
Millennium Falcon exactly it looks

2440
01:45:46,679 --> 01:45:51,300
that's about the closest thing to it

2441
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:53,340
and this was one of the most surprising

2442
01:45:51,300 --> 01:45:56,699
things that we recorded right after I

2443
01:45:53,340 --> 01:45:59,460
purchased the ranch was this image and

2444
01:45:56,698 --> 01:46:02,339
again according to all the flight data

2445
01:45:59,460 --> 01:46:04,439
for the you inter Basin and Utah during

2446
01:46:02,340 --> 01:46:05,760
that day there was no other commercial

2447
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:08,479
or private

2448
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:10,860
flight traffic

2449
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:14,399
here's another craft that was captured

2450
01:46:10,859 --> 01:46:16,738
over the ranch

2451
01:46:14,399 --> 01:46:20,039
we've been recording both seismic and

2452
01:46:16,738 --> 01:46:21,839
infrasonic activity in the area one

2453
01:46:20,039 --> 01:46:26,219
thing we found from our infrasonic

2454
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:28,380
studies there are unexplained signals

2455
01:46:26,219 --> 01:46:30,658
our chief scientists it's like nothing

2456
01:46:28,380 --> 01:46:32,159
he's ever recorded the patterns that

2457
01:46:30,658 --> 01:46:35,158
he's found on the ranch

2458
01:46:32,158 --> 01:46:37,679
what I am most interested in is what is

2459
01:46:35,158 --> 01:46:39,779
so unique about this property why is

2460
01:46:37,679 --> 01:46:41,819
this the center of gravity for for The

2461
01:46:39,779 --> 01:46:45,439
Unexplained all sorts of high strangers

2462
01:46:41,819 --> 01:46:45,439
and how far back

2463
01:46:45,779 --> 01:46:50,759
so this is the first of three

2464
01:46:48,238 --> 01:46:53,759
observation towers 20 years ago Bob

2465
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:56,820
Bigelow Milton and he built them as vape

2466
01:46:53,760 --> 01:47:00,239
pens and observation towns they put

2467
01:46:56,819 --> 01:47:01,698
cattle Livestock in the big pens to see

2468
01:47:00,238 --> 01:47:05,519
if they would react

2469
01:47:01,698 --> 01:47:09,118
asbion sensors to unseen activity

2470
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:10,800
because the scientists were noticing

2471
01:47:09,118 --> 01:47:12,839
things that were more what we would call

2472
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:15,900
me predator-like they were camouflaged

2473
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:19,819
to helium effect

2474
01:47:15,899 --> 01:47:19,819
this is a disturbing part of the ranch

2475
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:26,880
it is the historic record that really

2476
01:47:25,079 --> 01:47:28,800
attests to the fact that for some reason

2477
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:31,618
there have been strange activities

2478
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:33,900
recorded in this area strange lights in

2479
01:47:31,618 --> 01:47:36,539
the sky unidentified aerial craft

2480
01:47:33,899 --> 01:47:39,960
Halloween relations going back to as

2481
01:47:36,539 --> 01:47:41,819
early as 1920 1930 you see how remote

2482
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:45,960
this is to a degree out here right now

2483
01:47:41,819 --> 01:47:48,599
you can imagine back in the 1920s 1930s

2484
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:51,500
stepping in there

2485
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:51,500
you need a foundation

2486
01:48:02,698 --> 01:48:06,658
I still am prayerful I believe that

2487
01:48:04,979 --> 01:48:08,218
we're not alone and I don't think there

2488
01:48:06,658 --> 01:48:09,599
are any coincidences and that's the

2489
01:48:08,219 --> 01:48:11,279
thing that is scary about what we're

2490
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:14,460
seeing here on the ranch when you have

2491
01:48:11,279 --> 01:48:17,099
craft learning about in the sky that are

2492
01:48:14,460 --> 01:48:20,039
not showing up on any radar that are not

2493
01:48:17,100 --> 01:48:21,060
accounted for and things happening to

2494
01:48:20,039 --> 01:48:23,819
people

2495
01:48:21,060 --> 01:48:25,860
that are beyond their control

2496
01:48:23,819 --> 01:48:28,439
you think of the National Security

2497
01:48:25,859 --> 01:48:30,299
implications it really does speak to the

2498
01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:31,559
fact that we don't we don't have any

2499
01:48:30,300 --> 01:48:33,600
idea

2500
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:36,000
really what the true nature of reality

2501
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:37,739
is one right above my head and I could

2502
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:40,380
hit it with a tennis ball

2503
01:48:37,738 --> 01:48:40,869
yeah and it was a solid yeah it was

2504
01:48:40,380 --> 01:48:44,279
solid

2505
01:48:40,869 --> 01:48:46,019
[Music]

2506
01:48:44,279 --> 01:48:48,618
so you don't you don't get anything

2507
01:48:46,020 --> 01:48:51,179
while you're here I feel great

2508
01:48:48,618 --> 01:48:54,679
I'm impervious to evil man it's the

2509
01:48:51,179 --> 01:48:57,239
thing I got going oh really

2510
01:48:54,679 --> 01:48:58,739
how'd you uh

2511
01:48:57,238 --> 01:49:02,959
how did you get that going for yourself

2512
01:48:58,738 --> 01:49:02,959
being appropriate so easily genetics

2513
01:49:22,618 --> 01:49:28,579
what do you have to say to people who

2514
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:28,579
think this is not a real phenomenon

2515
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:32,359
they're delusional

2516
01:49:34,319 --> 01:49:41,158
anyone who does their due diligence

2517
01:49:38,399 --> 01:49:43,019
anyone who is this sincere seeker of

2518
01:49:41,158 --> 01:49:46,738
Truth

2519
01:49:43,020 --> 01:49:49,199
that actually looks into this

2520
01:49:46,738 --> 01:49:51,839
will find that there is absolute truth

2521
01:49:49,198 --> 01:49:54,299
to what is happening

2522
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:57,420
there is legitimacy

2523
01:49:54,300 --> 01:50:00,920
and it is perhaps the most important

2524
01:49:57,420 --> 01:50:00,920
scientific effort of our time

2525
01:50:04,380 --> 01:50:08,060
the game has changed

2526
01:50:09,939 --> 01:50:15,919
[Music]

2527
01:50:18,238 --> 01:50:22,500
does this bring back memories to your

2528
01:50:20,039 --> 01:50:24,359
first trip to the ranch

2529
01:50:22,500 --> 01:50:26,100
well yeah I mean the only other time we

2530
01:50:24,359 --> 01:50:27,839
did this was the first trip that I ever

2531
01:50:26,100 --> 01:50:29,820
made here and we built the fire and we

2532
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:31,560
made a bunch of noise did kind of the

2533
01:50:29,819 --> 01:50:33,779
kind of things that this group has been

2534
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:36,300
doing today and yesterday and tried to

2535
01:50:33,779 --> 01:50:40,019
uh attract the attention of something

2536
01:50:36,300 --> 01:50:42,420
it didn't work and you know

2537
01:50:40,020 --> 01:50:44,040
whatever that's here it plays by its own

2538
01:50:42,420 --> 01:50:46,679
rules it shows you

2539
01:50:44,039 --> 01:50:48,479
what it wants to when it wants to for

2540
01:50:46,679 --> 01:50:50,699
for nids when they came in they came in

2541
01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:53,339
like gangbusters they end up bringing a

2542
01:50:50,698 --> 01:50:55,979
lot of technical expertise and Equipment

2543
01:50:53,340 --> 01:50:57,719
scientific measuring equipment to try to

2544
01:50:55,979 --> 01:50:59,339
figure out what's out here the phenomena

2545
01:50:57,719 --> 01:51:02,579
itself always seemed to be one step

2546
01:50:59,340 --> 01:51:03,659
ahead of of the team that was trying to

2547
01:51:02,579 --> 01:51:06,300
figure it out

2548
01:51:03,658 --> 01:51:08,399
whatever is here it toys with whomever

2549
01:51:06,300 --> 01:51:11,159
is trying to figure it out I mean it

2550
01:51:08,399 --> 01:51:12,719
plays games it messes with your mind

2551
01:51:11,158 --> 01:51:14,579
it seems to know what you're going to do

2552
01:51:12,719 --> 01:51:16,679
before you do it and it gives you

2553
01:51:14,579 --> 01:51:18,359
glimpses only when you don't expect it

2554
01:51:16,679 --> 01:51:19,739
and you're not ready for it there's a

2555
01:51:18,359 --> 01:51:21,420
suggestion from what's here there's all

2556
01:51:19,738 --> 01:51:22,859
these different phenomena that you

2557
01:51:21,420 --> 01:51:25,500
wouldn't normally associate with each

2558
01:51:22,859 --> 01:51:27,539
other UFOs and Poltergeist Poltergeist

2559
01:51:25,500 --> 01:51:29,100
and Bigfoot Bigfoot and cattle

2560
01:51:27,539 --> 01:51:31,139
mutilations all those things in one

2561
01:51:29,100 --> 01:51:33,119
place it's almost like it's telling us

2562
01:51:31,139 --> 01:51:35,520
they're all related on some level and

2563
01:51:33,118 --> 01:51:37,618
it's up to you to figure it out

2564
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:39,659
I've been out here you know a number of

2565
01:51:37,618 --> 01:51:41,819
times with you and I've wanted to have

2566
01:51:39,658 --> 01:51:43,138
an experience that was was not good to

2567
01:51:41,819 --> 01:51:44,519
be honest with you I did because I

2568
01:51:43,139 --> 01:51:46,319
wanted to see for myself but I've only

2569
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:48,239
had really good experience I tried to

2570
01:51:46,319 --> 01:51:50,099
trick myself into feeling like oh

2571
01:51:48,238 --> 01:51:52,559
something's terrifying but I've just

2572
01:51:50,100 --> 01:51:54,539
felt good you didn't expect to see

2573
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:57,060
anything but it'd be cool if you did if

2574
01:51:54,539 --> 01:52:00,179
it was just scary I could deal with that

2575
01:51:57,060 --> 01:52:03,840
but if I have a hitchhiker

2576
01:52:00,179 --> 01:52:06,000
that comes on and takes me over

2577
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:09,000
I couldn't deal with that so I'm scared

2578
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:10,800
of that but we do have a say in in

2579
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:12,000
England and it's in for a penny in for a

2580
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:13,860
pound I'm

2581
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:16,260
I'm here so I might as well and I

2582
01:52:13,859 --> 01:52:19,019
survived the last one I I don't know if

2583
01:52:16,260 --> 01:52:21,360
I can afford any more hitchhikers so

2584
01:52:19,020 --> 01:52:24,000
I'll say that out loud to The

2585
01:52:21,359 --> 01:52:26,219
Hitchhikers of the Galaxy don't come

2586
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:28,260
home with me we all talk about evidence

2587
01:52:26,219 --> 01:52:30,600
well what is evidence to use evidence of

2588
01:52:28,260 --> 01:52:32,820
photograph is it a video a lot of what I

2589
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:35,940
have is witness testimony witness

2590
01:52:32,819 --> 01:52:37,859
testimony is evidence so my question is

2591
01:52:35,939 --> 01:52:40,319
does there become a point where

2592
01:52:37,859 --> 01:52:44,219
testimony becomes so weighty that it

2593
01:52:40,319 --> 01:52:46,679
just has value the witness testimony is

2594
01:52:44,219 --> 01:52:48,658
what got me into this I mean Admirals

2595
01:52:46,679 --> 01:52:51,000
generals Pilots I mean that's what

2596
01:52:48,658 --> 01:52:52,738
initially got me into this stuff so yes

2597
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:55,859
that has weight

2598
01:52:52,738 --> 01:52:59,339
but what I'd love to see you know a

2599
01:52:55,859 --> 01:53:02,158
portal open up right there

2600
01:52:59,340 --> 01:53:03,719
yeah I really would it's just I've got

2601
01:53:02,158 --> 01:53:06,179
the point where I just I don't have the

2602
01:53:03,719 --> 01:53:08,460
luxury of disbelief anymore I don't know

2603
01:53:06,179 --> 01:53:11,158
what that means it doesn't mean I know

2604
01:53:08,460 --> 01:53:12,420
anything I just don't have the luxury of

2605
01:53:11,158 --> 01:53:14,460
disbelief

2606
01:53:12,420 --> 01:53:17,219
if I'm honest I should not have the

2607
01:53:14,460 --> 01:53:19,500
luxury to disbelieve Eva

2608
01:53:17,219 --> 01:53:21,539
I believe there's other stuff there I've

2609
01:53:19,500 --> 01:53:23,760
said it you know I always try and

2610
01:53:21,539 --> 01:53:25,139
qualify that with but I'm not sure

2611
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:27,300
because it might be crazy and don't

2612
01:53:25,139 --> 01:53:28,020
worry about me I'm just an idiot you

2613
01:53:27,300 --> 01:53:32,659
know

2614
01:53:28,020 --> 01:53:32,659
um but you know I I do believe

2615
01:53:32,698 --> 01:53:34,879
foreign

2616
01:53:35,819 --> 01:53:39,840
so I guess I just want to hear a little

2617
01:53:37,198 --> 01:53:42,000
bit you know from George why do you want

2618
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:44,100
this out now

2619
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:45,658
the universe is more mysterious and

2620
01:53:44,100 --> 01:53:48,119
wondrous and complicated than we

2621
01:53:45,658 --> 01:53:50,099
imagined reality is more complicated

2622
01:53:48,118 --> 01:53:57,009
than what it might seem full stop

2623
01:53:50,100 --> 01:53:57,010
[Music]

2624
01:53:58,380 --> 01:54:03,000
I thought that coming in about six years

2625
01:54:01,198 --> 01:54:06,178
ago that

2626
01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:08,399
if we essentially through personnel and

2627
01:54:06,179 --> 01:54:10,800
equipment at this problem on this

2628
01:54:08,399 --> 01:54:13,259
property as well as elsewhere

2629
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:15,000
and if we you know we really pulled out

2630
01:54:13,260 --> 01:54:18,480
the stops in terms of chemical analysis

2631
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:21,000
that we probably would get answers but

2632
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:23,399
any answers that we've got

2633
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:25,979
don't seem to fit the overall thinking

2634
01:54:23,399 --> 01:54:27,658
and I'm thinking mostly of the kinds of

2635
01:54:25,979 --> 01:54:31,138
chemical analysis that have been carried

2636
01:54:27,658 --> 01:54:33,719
out on the UFO artifacts as well as some

2637
01:54:31,139 --> 01:54:36,719
of the preliminary chemical analysis

2638
01:54:33,719 --> 01:54:38,760
we've done on the mutilations

2639
01:54:36,719 --> 01:54:41,399
I don't think

2640
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:42,900
that there's an iota of evidence from

2641
01:54:41,399 --> 01:54:45,420
any of that stuff

2642
01:54:42,899 --> 01:54:49,920
that really Nails the Extraterrestrial

2643
01:54:45,420 --> 01:54:52,560
thing there's really no strong evidence

2644
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:53,279
that it's extraterrestrial that has kind

2645
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:55,560
of

2646
01:54:53,279 --> 01:54:57,238
that's a fly in the ointment

2647
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:58,800
it's really

2648
01:54:57,238 --> 01:55:01,559
against the predictions as

2649
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:04,079
counterintuitive

2650
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:05,340
if anything that is created more

2651
01:55:04,079 --> 01:55:07,380
questions

2652
01:55:05,340 --> 01:55:09,739
than I originally had coming into this

2653
01:55:07,380 --> 01:55:09,739
whole thing

2654
01:55:11,639 --> 01:55:17,100
essentially the ranch became a testing

2655
01:55:14,819 --> 01:55:20,399
ground a Proving Ground if you will

2656
01:55:17,100 --> 01:55:22,199
applying the scientific method this team

2657
01:55:20,399 --> 01:55:24,539
this group of multidisciplinary

2658
01:55:22,198 --> 01:55:26,039
scientists both on the staff and of the

2659
01:55:24,539 --> 01:55:28,019
science Advisory Board to attempt to

2660
01:55:26,039 --> 01:55:32,300
solve a problem using the scientific

2661
01:55:28,020 --> 01:55:32,300
method and we couldn't do it

2662
01:55:34,380 --> 01:55:39,480
the scientific method is not amenable to

2663
01:55:37,319 --> 01:55:40,559
these kind of problems it is not that

2664
01:55:39,479 --> 01:55:42,658
malleable

2665
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:44,880
it's not that flexible to be able to

2666
01:55:42,658 --> 01:55:47,698
apply easily to a problem such as this

2667
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:49,859
which is non-repeatable every time a

2668
01:55:47,698 --> 01:55:51,599
phenomena occurs it's not always same

2669
01:55:49,859 --> 01:55:54,559
one as before it's always something new

2670
01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:54,560
and always something different

2671
01:55:55,859 --> 01:56:03,719
the phenomena was playing with us

2672
01:55:59,698 --> 01:56:06,299
giving us only a taste here and there of

2673
01:56:03,719 --> 01:56:09,000
various things

2674
01:56:06,300 --> 01:56:11,239
an opportunity to see things

2675
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:14,698
that were abnormal

2676
01:56:11,238 --> 01:56:17,698
uh opportunity to cause examinations

2677
01:56:14,698 --> 01:56:20,698
upon performances of things that were

2678
01:56:17,698 --> 01:56:23,839
very unique through certain pathological

2679
01:56:20,698 --> 01:56:23,839
kinds of Investigations

2680
01:56:24,420 --> 01:56:28,679
the performances didn't repeat

2681
01:56:26,100 --> 01:56:31,139
themselves you know each time there

2682
01:56:28,679 --> 01:56:33,060
would be a performance of A Sort there

2683
01:56:31,139 --> 01:56:35,100
was always some unique pattern it was

2684
01:56:33,060 --> 01:56:37,619
something that that was always changed

2685
01:56:35,100 --> 01:56:39,480
so we would be prepared that if this

2686
01:56:37,618 --> 01:56:42,658
thing this type of event happened again

2687
01:56:39,479 --> 01:56:44,339
we know what to do well that exact same

2688
01:56:42,658 --> 01:56:47,658
event never happened again it would

2689
01:56:44,340 --> 01:56:47,659
always be something completely different

2690
01:56:47,939 --> 01:56:55,019
every time we we would come up with a

2691
01:56:51,300 --> 01:56:57,679
some method of observation or

2692
01:56:55,020 --> 01:56:57,679
calibration

2693
01:56:59,158 --> 01:57:04,279
it seemed that uh we were always out

2694
01:57:02,100 --> 01:57:04,280
against

2695
01:57:08,989 --> 01:57:18,059
[Music]

2696
01:57:14,479 --> 01:57:20,519
it became obvious that

2697
01:57:18,060 --> 01:57:22,679
we obviously weren't the ones in control

2698
01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:25,940
we were along for the ride

2699
01:57:22,679 --> 01:57:29,819
and that a lot of these exhibitions were

2700
01:57:25,939 --> 01:57:30,859
exhibitions for gamesmanship or

2701
01:57:29,819 --> 01:57:32,219
instruction

2702
01:57:30,859 --> 01:57:35,789
[Music]

2703
01:57:32,219 --> 01:57:42,840
um you know in that kind of context

2704
01:57:35,789 --> 01:57:42,840
[Music]

2705
01:57:49,050 --> 01:57:55,920
[Music]

2706
01:57:52,380 --> 01:57:58,618
people say Secrets can't be kept they're

2707
01:57:55,920 --> 01:58:00,960
full of [ __ ] Secrets can be kept secrets

2708
01:57:58,618 --> 01:58:03,598
are kept big secrets

2709
01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:06,179
it took two decades for this story to

2710
01:58:03,599 --> 01:58:08,940
even begin to open up and what's most

2711
01:58:06,179 --> 01:58:11,719
interesting is how it relates to what's

2712
01:58:08,939 --> 01:58:11,719
happening now

2713
01:58:13,439 --> 01:58:17,960
oh my gosh it's rotating

2714
01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:28,460
[Applause]

2715
01:58:27,060 --> 01:58:41,890
foreign

2716
01:58:28,460 --> 01:58:41,890
[Applause]

2717
01:58:48,599 --> 01:58:52,860
what is the link between the current

2718
01:58:50,819 --> 01:58:54,840
releases by the Department of Defense

2719
01:58:52,859 --> 01:58:56,939
using the New York Times to get out two

2720
01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:59,159
videos now three what is the connection

2721
01:58:56,939 --> 01:59:01,079
between Matt and the ranch

2722
01:58:59,158 --> 01:59:03,420
so it's kind of a long and winding road

2723
01:59:01,079 --> 01:59:06,840
with a lot of acronyms involved but

2724
01:59:03,420 --> 01:59:08,880
here's the basics December 2017 the New

2725
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:11,460
York Times breaks a story about the

2726
01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:13,319
existence of a secret UFO program in the

2727
01:59:11,460 --> 01:59:15,359
Pentagon and while many of us have long

2728
01:59:13,319 --> 01:59:16,679
suspected they had something going we

2729
01:59:15,359 --> 01:59:18,420
didn't know exactly what it was well

2730
01:59:16,679 --> 01:59:20,940
turns out it's something called atip

2731
01:59:18,420 --> 01:59:23,579
Advanced Aerospace threat identification

2732
01:59:20,939 --> 01:59:25,198
program a guy named Lou Elizondo comes

2733
01:59:23,579 --> 01:59:27,599
forward he says he's the point man for

2734
01:59:25,198 --> 01:59:29,579
this program in addition we learned that

2735
01:59:27,599 --> 01:59:32,099
there was a contract given out and it

2736
01:59:29,579 --> 01:59:34,319
involves bass Bigelow Advanced Aerospace

2737
01:59:32,099 --> 01:59:36,539
within Bigelow Aerospace here in Las

2738
01:59:34,319 --> 01:59:39,000
Vegas and uh that a study had been

2739
01:59:36,539 --> 01:59:41,460
conducted 22 million dollars and that

2740
01:59:39,000 --> 01:59:43,738
part of that study focused on Skinwalker

2741
01:59:41,460 --> 01:59:45,960
Ranch a lot of people assume that atip

2742
01:59:43,738 --> 01:59:48,238
and bass were almost synonymous that the

2743
01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:50,579
money for atip and bass came from the

2744
01:59:48,238 --> 01:59:52,079
same pot that it was the same program in

2745
01:59:50,579 --> 01:59:54,840
fact as it wasn't

2746
01:59:52,079 --> 01:59:56,880
what was bass was involved with

2747
01:59:54,840 --> 01:59:58,139
something else bass was under a much

2748
01:59:56,880 --> 02:00:00,118
larger program

2749
01:59:58,139 --> 02:00:02,819
the existence of which has not been made

2750
02:00:00,118 --> 02:00:05,399
public yet but bass was not part of atip

2751
02:00:02,819 --> 02:00:07,019
atip did communicate with bass that was

2752
02:00:05,399 --> 02:00:08,939
exchange of information back and forth

2753
02:00:07,020 --> 02:00:10,739
but it wasn't a tip that went to the

2754
02:00:08,939 --> 02:00:12,319
ranch it was somebody else bass

2755
02:00:10,738 --> 02:00:14,879
investigators went to the property

2756
02:00:12,319 --> 02:00:17,460
investigated it interviewed Witnesses

2757
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:19,440
collected evidence much like nids had

2758
02:00:17,460 --> 02:00:21,599
done before National Institute for

2759
02:00:19,439 --> 02:00:23,039
Discovery Science which while many

2760
02:00:21,599 --> 02:00:25,500
people suspected it was a government

2761
02:00:23,039 --> 02:00:27,779
program was not it was completely funded

2762
02:00:25,500 --> 02:00:30,238
by Bob Bigelow he bought the property he

2763
02:00:27,779 --> 02:00:32,579
hired the people to be there he

2764
02:00:30,238 --> 02:00:35,158
conducted studies for more than a decade

2765
02:00:32,579 --> 02:00:39,359
he owned the ranch for 20 years and sold

2766
02:00:35,158 --> 02:00:41,339
it in 2016. nids was Private bass was

2767
02:00:39,359 --> 02:00:43,920
public and that it was funded by

2768
02:00:41,340 --> 02:00:46,260
taxpayer money and that came from a

2769
02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:48,500
program whose name has not yet been made

2770
02:00:46,260 --> 02:00:48,500
public

2771
02:00:50,698 --> 02:00:55,279
what is going on at Skinwalker Ranch

2772
02:00:55,800 --> 02:01:00,119
if you're asking did we crack the

2773
02:00:57,840 --> 02:01:01,920
mystery the answer is no you know it's

2774
02:01:00,118 --> 02:01:03,899
very frustrating for the scientists both

2775
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:05,699
the nids guys and the bass guys and I

2776
02:01:03,899 --> 02:01:07,500
think any other agency that's been

2777
02:01:05,698 --> 02:01:09,899
involved in the study we don't have an

2778
02:01:07,500 --> 02:01:12,118
answer to how it works we know that it

2779
02:01:09,899 --> 02:01:14,698
is real and it's mysterious and it's

2780
02:01:12,118 --> 02:01:16,559
documentable and it's physical and

2781
02:01:14,698 --> 02:01:18,899
sometimes it's not physical sometimes it

2782
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:21,119
appears almost like a hologram and um

2783
02:01:18,899 --> 02:01:23,638
and it's a it's a trickster and it's

2784
02:01:21,118 --> 02:01:26,399
elusive it is clearly intelligent but we

2785
02:01:23,639 --> 02:01:28,260
don't know what it is or where it's from

2786
02:01:26,399 --> 02:01:30,000
or what its intentions are does it mean

2787
02:01:28,260 --> 02:01:32,159
to harm us sometimes it does harm us

2788
02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:34,560
part of what the bass study did they

2789
02:01:32,158 --> 02:01:36,479
evaluated uh databases from around the

2790
02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:38,880
world including some very dramatic cases

2791
02:01:36,479 --> 02:01:42,779
from other countries where humans were

2792
02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:44,880
face significant harm physical harm

2793
02:01:42,779 --> 02:01:46,559
and there have been some reports of that

2794
02:01:44,880 --> 02:01:48,420
in the Uinta Basin as well where people

2795
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:49,860
were harmed after encountering these

2796
02:01:48,420 --> 02:01:52,319
things could some of them be government

2797
02:01:49,859 --> 02:01:53,939
I think the answer is yes are all of

2798
02:01:52,319 --> 02:01:55,920
them government I'd say the answer is no

2799
02:01:53,939 --> 02:01:57,479
you know I try to prepare myself for

2800
02:01:55,920 --> 02:01:59,699
these trips that we make and I'm

2801
02:01:57,479 --> 02:02:01,079
respectful of whatever it is that's

2802
02:01:59,698 --> 02:02:03,839
there and I don't want to take anything

2803
02:02:01,079 --> 02:02:05,340
home to any loved ones but most of the

2804
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:07,380
people who've gone there as many times

2805
02:02:05,340 --> 02:02:11,239
as we have have taken something with

2806
02:02:07,380 --> 02:02:11,239
them and I don't want that to happen

2807
02:02:14,210 --> 02:02:24,408
[Music]

2808
02:02:25,039 --> 02:02:28,618
we still don't know what we're dealing

2809
02:02:27,779 --> 02:02:32,238
with

2810
02:02:28,618 --> 02:02:34,219
and that's the truth of it

2811
02:02:32,238 --> 02:02:37,698
big questions

2812
02:02:34,219 --> 02:02:37,698
disturbing answers

2813
02:02:38,920 --> 02:02:41,998
[Music]

2814
02:02:44,300 --> 02:02:52,380
it sounds crazy but in reality

2815
02:02:48,899 --> 02:02:53,839
these events happen it's hard it it's

2816
02:02:52,380 --> 02:02:56,880
your problem

2817
02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:59,880
you have to Grapple with that these

2818
02:02:56,880 --> 02:03:03,440
events happen and so that's everybody's

2819
02:02:59,880 --> 02:03:06,539
challenge is to try to absorb and

2820
02:03:03,439 --> 02:03:09,359
integrate that information

2821
02:03:06,539 --> 02:03:11,279
or deny it or ridicule it that's what

2822
02:03:09,359 --> 02:03:13,399
people like to do but these events

2823
02:03:11,279 --> 02:03:13,399
happen

2824
02:03:13,560 --> 02:03:18,119
there is a real mystery here and I

2825
02:03:15,779 --> 02:03:19,920
believe Mysteries have Solutions I

2826
02:03:18,118 --> 02:03:22,339
believe we can get at least closer to

2827
02:03:19,920 --> 02:03:22,340
the truth

2828
02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:28,460
[Music]

2829
02:03:25,039 --> 02:03:28,460
I don't know man

2830
02:03:30,060 --> 02:03:34,920
are we alone in the universe

2831
02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:37,739
this intelligence that seems to be

2832
02:03:34,920 --> 02:03:40,279
interacting with Humanity what is it

2833
02:03:37,738 --> 02:03:43,259
what what is its purpose

2834
02:03:40,279 --> 02:03:46,460
these are real tangible physical events

2835
02:03:43,260 --> 02:03:49,440
but sometimes it's it's like a mirage

2836
02:03:46,460 --> 02:03:53,219
nobody knows what we're dealing with

2837
02:03:49,439 --> 02:03:56,098
that's the bottom line nobody knows

2838
02:03:53,219 --> 02:03:59,158
it's our job to investigate the

2839
02:03:56,099 --> 02:04:01,940
Unexplained not to explain the

2840
02:03:59,158 --> 02:04:01,939
uninvestigated

2841
02:04:10,760 --> 02:04:17,659
that's what I figure

2842
02:04:13,579 --> 02:04:17,658
yeah okay okay

2843
02:04:28,099 --> 02:04:31,940
oh God yeah

2844
02:04:32,158 --> 02:04:34,819
they're so strong

2845
02:04:35,399 --> 02:04:39,658
you see red lights around could a truck

2846
02:04:37,859 --> 02:04:42,500
do that I don't think it could have that

2847
02:04:39,658 --> 02:04:42,500
is not a drop

2848
02:04:43,340 --> 02:04:47,800
there's no Road out there see any tricks

2849
02:04:46,079 --> 02:04:51,559
with four red bikes

2850
02:04:47,800 --> 02:04:54,779
[Music]

2851
02:04:51,560 --> 02:04:57,860
but one time I can draw 20 different

2852
02:04:54,779 --> 02:04:57,859
pictures when I see right

2853
02:05:00,238 --> 02:05:03,238
now

2854
02:05:06,260 --> 02:05:09,800
I have no idea

2855
02:05:21,220 --> 02:05:24,458
[Music]

2856
02:05:29,939 --> 02:05:35,939
you can't throw the baby out of the

2857
02:05:32,219 --> 02:05:40,698
freaking bath you've got cases

2858
02:05:35,939 --> 02:05:40,698
absolutely striking compelling evidence

2859
02:05:41,220 --> 02:05:44,838
[Music]

2860
02:05:52,729 --> 02:06:01,358
[Music]

2861
02:06:04,149 --> 02:06:07,219
[Music]

2862
02:06:09,060 --> 02:06:11,659
it's just

2863
02:06:13,979 --> 02:06:16,339
that

2864
02:06:22,789 --> 02:06:28,250
[Music]

2865
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:33,000
I

2866
02:06:38,399 --> 02:06:50,309
foreign

2867
02:06:40,630 --> 02:06:50,310
[Music]